Posts by love2Bworldly

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Satan & the Garden of Eden

by love2Bworldly in

hi-- i was forced to listen to a jw witnessing on a mass transit bus the other day.

she said something that sparked my attention.

i read almost the whole bible cover to cover when i was a jehovahs witless.. she stated that satan was in charge of the garden of eve as an assignment from god to watch over adam & eve but he became too full of himself.. how in the world do the jws explain this teaching of satan being in charge over the garden?

love2Bworldly

Hi-- I was forced to listen to a JW witnessing on a mass transit bus the other day. She said something that sparked my attention. I read almost the whole Bible cover to cover when I was a Jehovahs Witless.

She stated that Satan was in charge of the Garden of Eve as an assignment from God to watch over Adam & Eve but he became too full of himself.

How in the world do the JWs explain this teaching of Satan being in charge over the Garden? I do not recall any Bible verses to back this up.

If anyone out there can explain this to me? It sounds like BS to me. They are always taking scriptures and running with it and expounding on the stories in the Bible, which could be viewed as blasphemy according to the Bible.

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how do you cope with the stress of fading?

by brainmelt in

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friends

i'm really struggling with it.

i've been learning the ttatt for the past 6 months now and i've been inadvertantly fading - either one of us or the children have had coughs/colds/flu/chicken pox/stress over the past 3 months which has meant we've missed a lot of meetings and field service with good reason.

we've only been out in service twice this year, so far no ones mentioned it to us but i'm waiting for our group overseer to bring it up anytime soon.

love2Bworldly

Good for you that you are leaving while your kids are still so young. My advice is to be careful about 'alone' time your JW relatives have with your kids because they will do everything they can to influence your kids.

My fade wasn't bad because I only have a sister who is a JW, so I can imagine it's way more difficult for you. It does take time to get over the brainwashing, it doesn't happen overnight. I went to a workshop on cults that helped me a lot. This site and other sites helped me a lot. I also read "Crisis of Conscience". It sounds liks your spouse is on the same page as you, maybe once in a while you should bring something up in conversation innocently about something you have doubts about and make him think.

I wish you the best on your fade. Don't meet with the elders, you don't need any guilt or shame from them.

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How Some Organized Religion Leads to Mental Health Problems

by BlindersOff1 in

religious trauma syndrome: how some organized religion leads to mental health problems .

http://truth-out.org/news/item/15366-religious-trauma-syndrome-how-some-organized-religion-leads-to-mental-health-problems.

wednesday, 27 march 2013 13:20 by valerie tarico, alternet | interview.

love2Bworldly

Great info-- thanks for sharing. This woman will be a big help to ex JWs

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JC was formed, without even letting me know!?

by magotan in

no one will take my intent to da or df seriously.

they called me again (three brothers this time) and asked me to meet with them.

i had no intention of doing so....simply told them there was nothing to talk about.. .

love2Bworldly

If I had it to do over again, I would not have met with the elders. The only purpose it served was for them to shame me & make themselves feel important. And it was degrading the way they made me come in through the back door after a meeting and wait outside in the bushes until they were ready. It felt weird & dirty somehow. What was funny though is that one elder looked at me and said "Thank you for being so honest" after I said "I just didn't want to do this anymore", and he was disfellowshipped within the year-- I think I inspired him.

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You stand there and judge...

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

you stand there,.

clutching your magazines to your chest.... as if you are drowning and it is your life vest.. as if it gives life.. but it does, doesn't it?.

these magazines contain the commands.

love2Bworldly

I really like it. I picture them in my mind as I read your poem since I see them everyday doing streetwork when I go to my office. Mostly I see them visit amongst themselves & drink coffee, so I always scratch my head & think about how the Watchtower teaches that it is "life saving" work, and I know they are just counting their hours. I tell as many people as I can about all their little "counting" BS out in field service and people crack up.

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Re: Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?

by check in

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friends

you all had some interesting thoughts on that jw memorial thread.

some of you mentioned that you are going so that you can set some sort of example.

i gather that some of you believe that by going and eating, you are somehow showing them they can (or should) do it too.. that really confuses me.

love2Bworldly

No I won't be attending and haven't since about 1987. I just had a thought though. It would really be fun to go and use my phone's recording to watch people's stupid "love" bombs to the new person. I wish I could be a fly on the wall when JustMom attends.

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Todays Watchtower Study ---------------------- Give Me A Break

by BlindersOff1 in

this is so a made up example .

written as ifs it was real .

whats your opinion ?.

love2Bworldly

makes me gag & nothing has changed since I quit going to meetings 25 years ago

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I just had a thought that made me feel so much better about this fade...

by sosoconfused in

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friends

this is not monumental... i am sure all of you think it all the time.. but as a 3rd gen born-in ex-elder ex-pioneer ex-bethelite i spent so much time in this relion believing that for some reason that god, who loves all humans and created all things only wanted a few people to get knowledge of him - and this small group in america was his choice.. .

now as i said i am sure 99% of you probably came to that realization before and it is common sense, but the very fact that as a grown man i never really thought about this for more than 15 seconds.

the whole idea is just ridiculous and freaking stupid.

love2Bworldly

Knowledge is power... it takes time starting a whole new life. I know I took me many years because I didn't have the internet and this forum back in 1984. I suffered from severe guilt & depression for many years thinking anytime now God was going to lower the boom on me, Armageddon was coming and I had to live whatever time I had left.

This form as well as other internet sites & attending a workshop on cults starting about 2002 set everything in motion. Now I really feel bad for people who are under cult mind control-- not just JWs, but Mormans, Catholics & other religions who teach that theirs is the only way to be approved by God. My sister is the only family member as a JW, but she seems like the most unhappy person-- loves being mean to people she doesn't like, especially so called worldly people. I feel sorry for her, that the 'paradise' is not coming. I believe we can make our own life a paradise through healing & living a positive life--- I know it sounds corny, and it's tough at times with all the BS & heartache in the world, but we can only control our own thoughts & behaviors & not other people.

I wish you the best on your fade. Make positive friends who have the same interests as you-- try volunteering & doing things you enjoy. Most of all, have patience with yourself.

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Have You Prepared For The "Flu" And Do You Get A Flu Shot?

by minimus in

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friends

i try to keep my hands clean regularly and stay away from areas and people that i know are sick.. i have never gotten a flu shot and i do know that many that do get one, get the flu anyway.. still, the flu is considered very very bad this year..

love2Bworldly

no

why would i get a shot that may make me sick, only covers certain strands of viruses, and will eventually mutate into another virus that is resistant to the shot?

instead i take a lot of nutritional supplements, exercise, drink lots of water & stay away from kingdumb hells

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Where Are You From?

by finallysomepride in

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friends

alot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.

if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.

for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .

love2Bworldly

most amazing the JWs at least are consistent with their cult brain washing world wide-- we all have the same stories or similar anyway