does anyone have any info on what the wts says about windchimes?
i seem to recall they were related to evil spirits or some-such-nonsense.
Thanks for all the input, both the quotes from articles and the humor. I get so many great laughs when I read people's posts. I know it gets old sometimes when all the BS from the WTS runs through your mind, all the stupid trivial non-sense rules to live by.
I guess I was wondering what went through my JW sister's mind when she comes to my house and has to walk under my wind chimes hanging in the front of my house. LOL :-)
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i just thought i'td be neet to get a poll of how many people on this board are still meeting attending, time reporting publishers, who believe the wts is all crap?.
I think 1991 was the last time I set foot in a Kingdom Hall.
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here's one thing i get a kick out at times--- it's when i see a new poster give "counsel" and advice as if they were still a jw elder or "eldress" or wannabe.
you know the authority types that genuinely believe they know it all and that we're all anxious to hear what wisdom might be imparted to us.
Some people who post have a great sense of humor, I often laugh outloud at work reading some of them. I enjoy people here who try not to take themself too seriously.
I enjoyed the post about people cussing at the Kingdom Hall. It made me realize I shouldn't be so hard on myself; I used to have the cleanest mouth in the world and now I don't, and sometimes I feel bad about it.
does anyone have any info on what the wts says about windchimes?
i seem to recall they were related to evil spirits or some-such-nonsense.
Does anyone have any info on what the WTS says about windchimes? I seem to recall they were related to evil spirits or some-such-nonsense.
i've just been to a big conference where we discussed retention of members and statistically lds lose most members (in the uk anyway) as follows: .
1/ 14 -18 (largest group) - i think it was 30% .
2/ new converts (next largest) - in the front door and straight out the back.
Like Blondie's comment about single mothers being the lowest on the social ladder, but if you don't have a spouse or family in the JW's you are also lowest on the social ladder.
GaryBuss--I empathize with you on what happened when you told a family member how you really felt. My JW sister has a pretty good relationship with me right now, but I know I won't be able to hold in my feelings about the WTS much longer.
has anyone ever thought about going to a meeting just for the hell of it?
i mean maybe while out of town, putting on a nice suit.
sitting in the front row, even answering a question.
I think a huge group of us should go together to a congregation where no one knows us and we should have a hidden camera on us. We should record the reactions of the 'brothers' reactions when we tell them we don't agree with the WTS and have been studying their history. Could they kick us out of the meeting? Or would the elders quietly tell us not to speak to anyone??
witnesses believe they are special.
the publications give many examples of how wonderful a witness was viewed upon by a "worldly" person.
kms tell of how so many praise the witnesses for being so "different".....what would you say is the real way people view jws??
LongHairGal--that reminded me of an argument I had in highschool with a girl who claimed that the only JW's she knew were losers who were dysfunctional and had a lot of personal problems.
when you were a jw can you remember things you should've not liked but did?
i was listening to some dowloads tonight and heard "happy birthday" by stevie wonder, i remember going to a big family party when i was a kid, and my uncle who had some dj decks put this one on for me as it was my birthday (none of my dads side of the family were jw) i loved it.......good memories still of this song.. i remember getting easter eggs too, and thinking however pagan they were, they tasted bloody delicious.
better than "ordinary" chocolate bars.
JWS--please explain what was wrong with Planet of the Apes? Just curious. Of course the JWs could find something wrong with everything.
tuesdays meeting had a part about the upcoming summer convention.
alot of q n a about how to dress, to wear your lapel at all times, to be clean, to not eat out bec the worldly vendors would be upset that they are not allowed to sell food inside the arena, to watch your language, conduct at the motels, to walk quietly, to not be in the halls during the sessions, informal witness at every opportunity etc.
then this man comments and says, "what other religion would clean up the arena before and after a convention?
Remember the scripture that goes something like "Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You wash the outside of the cup but inside it is full of vile things."
Gee, who does that make me think of?
i am reading crisis of conscience and am wondering what goes through people's minds when they read it, i am on about page 115. i find it slow reading because of the way it is written.
even though i have been out of the org for going on 20 years, i am a little shocked at some of the stuff i'm reading and i feel like it shouldn't shock me.
i remember when i was a jw, how the governing body was put on a pedestal; everyone assumes they spend all their time studying and praying over matters from a scriptural standpoint.
I am reading Crisis of Conscience and am wondering what goes through people's minds when they read it, I am on about page 115. I find it slow reading because of the way it is written.
Even though I have been out of the Org for going on 20 years, I am a little shocked at some of the stuff I'm reading and I feel like it shouldn't shock me. I remember when I was a JW, how the Governing Body was put on a pedestal; everyone assumes they spend all their time studying and praying over matters from a scriptural standpoint. I'm finding out what a horrible man-made organization the JWs really are. The president of the WTS has been the only one all these years to make decisions, and they're not even Bible-based; some are just opinion and some are just decisions to make everything coincide with Watchtower articles. Some of these wonderful 'older' ones were just sleeping through the meetings, and then nudged awake to vote. But it wasn't voting, it was just raising your hand to agree with Brother Knorr or Brother Franz.
Also the fact that the Bethelites weren't even treated that great, and they gave up everything to be at Bethel.
And I just keep learning about all the horrible decisions that have ruined people's lives. One woman caught her husband screwing an animal and that was not grounds for scriptural divorce? How absolutely disgusting! Can you imagine the horror of catching your husband 'giving' it to Rover, the family dog? And then you are forced to stay married to them?
I'm a little speechless. What are your thoughts?
