i was recently talking with a zealous 'sister' who for years was assigned to use a certain chemical while taking care of wt property, only to have it irreparably damage her immune system partly because she wasn't trained properly.
she said there was a potential lawsuit but she didn't want to bring reproach on jehovah's organization.
has anybody else heard of similar situations, of people being hurt or injured in service to the org, maybe even because of them, and taking the loss so the org wouldn't look bad?.
There was a young brother that fell down the elevator shaft at Squibb in '73.
I was working nights in the factory when that happened. He was to operate the elevator and take us up to the dining area. So by that time he had died. We did not realize he was only a few below us as we got someone else to operate the elevator.
If I recall correctly I think he had a brother that had drowned some time (years?) earlier.
another great interview by fifth here.
this lady was at bethel in 1975 and reminisces that many women at bethel expressed enormous regret at not having a family.
it seems that many witnesses back then were aware that watchtower really didn't know what they were talking about when it came to making predictions.. https://youtu.be/7dyooih3fji.
Interesting discussion. She came to Bethel about same time I did. We knew some of same people. And I think she may have worked with a friend of mine.
chapter 31. murder suicide and death at the big house.
the people at bethel were killing us spiritually and sometimes they killed us physically too.. many of the old timers were in the infirmary laying there just waiting to die of natural causes.
some had served there for over fifty years.
When I was working night shift in the factory we had "lunch" at the Squibb. That night when the person fell to his death it was his duty to run the elevator to take us up to the dining room. We figured he fell asleep somewhere as we had to get someone else to do the task. Didn't realize till the next day, when his body was found in the pit, that he was under us. A few years earlier his brother, not at Beathel, also died. Drowning accident if I remember correctly. Very soon after that lighting was installed at all the elevator doors for better illumination.
As as for Richard Wheelock. A minor correction. He died in Brooklyn not the Farm.
chapter 29.
1500 bottles of brandy.
i'm driving down the fdr drive late one sunday afternoon.
I remember being in Towers lobby one night and watching two NYPD officers dragging in a Bethelite because he was to drunk to stand on his own. Pretty funny. As soon as he was sober he was gone.
when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.
i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.
they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".
From Sparky1:
Sorry James Jackson but there was an Elders Manual in hardcover book form back in the 70's. It was not as comprehensive as the current version but it was a full size hardcover publication. When I went throught Bethel Entrants School in 1974 it was part of our study curriculum.
Confirming Sparky1's comment. I also had the same book, same year actually, at Bethel.
teresa graves was a beautiful, talented actress and singer.
she was deceived by wt false prophecies and worthless teachings.
she threw away a very promising career to become a jw.
i have always had a love for martial arts (didn't know how to fight, just admire what the human body can do), but since jdub-land banned it, i just kinda forgot about it.
i admire nate quarry (an 'apostate' mma fighter) and i have been boxing for a year now.
i decided to switch over to muay thai.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the one thing I always thought that was good about martial arts was learning to fall. How to fall in a way to minimize additional bodily injury. My thought was that this is something that adults should learn to overcome the fear of falling that seems to come with age.
i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.
as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?
surely education should come first.
When I was at Bethel a number of guys I worked with had college degrees that they obtained before becoming JW's. They all got the better job assignments at Bethel. A fact that was noticed by more than a few people who passed up college to pioneer, then Bethel. When I left Bethel I started college within weeks. Now have two degrees and partially into a masters degree. I'd like to thank Bethel for giving that real life observation that a college degree really does get you into a better job.......
bomb at bethel.
today i posted a new article to my blog about a bomb exploded at watchtowers headquarters.
my article is titled bomb at bethel and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/05/bomb-at-bethel.html.
I remember that device going off. Woke me up. The "bang" echoed amongst the buildings. Made for conversation at the breakfast table.
two new governing body members ???.
http://governingbodyletters.blogspot.com/2010/12/two-new-governing-body-members.html.
i know nothing with regard to this matter.. .
The Governing Body for Jehovah's Witnesses has approved the addition of two additional members to the U.S. Branch Committee.
These are:John Ekrann and Robert Raines.
If this information is correct, I remember John from my days at Bethel. I think at this point in time he is the Director of Information Technology. So it looks like the Branch Committee needed a technical background (with training/education)....
