Posts by Carmel

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Should I just say no?

by hambeak in

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my partners brother is being released from state prison on 12/7 and jake has to go to huntsville to pick him up.

i am cooking a big thanksgiving dinner and his mom wants me to duplicate it when the a**hole gets home and cook a big dinner for x-mas too.

i get 1 day off a week and i am starting to resent being the fricking maid.

dear ex-witnesses: was there ever a time, when you were out in service, that someone at the door said something that got you thinking about the wts?........anything that created some doubt about the org.

in the your mind?

if so, do you remember what it was?.

Carmel

Whilst just a we tot, I was on the porch of a prospect with one of the laddies in our congregation. The "prospect" came around the screen door with a doubl barrel shot gun aimed skyward, yellin about "dam commie Jehovahs" "get off my place if you want yer britches intact" We flat hustled off the property and never looked back.

carmel

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Why do women love religion?

by Kaethra in

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i've pondered this so much.

most religions, even though they are male-dominated, boast a predominately female population.

i've tried and tried to understand why otherwise independent women would give up their autonomy to a man-led faith and just recently i think i understand why...women, much more so than men, are in need of protection.

Carmel

My my skully! Tis on topic! Oh, did I touch a nerve? Sorry!

Think about it! Vimens seem to have needs in common! Only WW works better than the WT.

carm

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God's purpose? ...Anyone?

by Aequitus in

after hearing various (superficial) proofs for bible tales, justifications for various bible teachings, the immediate invisibility of god and questionable evidence of his existence, the ever present 'immmanent armageddon', the past six or so thousand years of human suffering and apparent abandonment by god, i am left wondering a pretty simple question that i don't think i've actually heard anyone ask let alone try to answerwhat was god's purpose in creating 'adam and eve' anyway?

are we like pets that are being disciplined over the previous six thousand years?

or simply under the care of a delinquent owner?

Carmel

Most all of human suffering is unnecessary and caused by actions of other humans. Accusing the deity is a cop out!

carmel

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What are the qualifications for being of the "annointed"?

by hubert in

am i correct to say that the "annointed" are the 144,000 that will be with jesus in heaven, according to the watchtower?.

if so, in ....luke 23:43...jesus said to "dismas" (the good thief) who was also being crucified along with jesus, "truly i tell you today you will be with me in paradise".. wouldn't this make dismus "one of the annointed"?.

wouldn't this also show that dismus, who had no qualifications for being of the annointed, went to heaven with jesus and became one?.

Carmel

In JW venacular, (i.e. the "annointed") self delusional would pretty much sum it up.. For nearly a year I challenged an "annointed" who posts here on JWD about the issue. Don't know if he (Jim) ever fessed up to the fact it is purely an egotistical decision. Has nothing to do with reality.

carmel

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Lonely Hearts Club - Roll Call

by confusedjw in

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home listening to prairie home companion - drinking wine with my dog.

he doesn't like wine, but does like guy noir

Carmel

Saturday was super busy until diner when wifey left to babysit the neighbor lady's neices. Ate a great meal ... alone then read the first ten chapters in "1491" The storm hit this moring so back to reading.. what a relaxed weekend..

carmel

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Why do women love religion?

by Kaethra in

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friends

i've pondered this so much.

most religions, even though they are male-dominated, boast a predominately female population.

i've tried and tried to understand why otherwise independent women would give up their autonomy to a man-led faith and just recently i think i understand why...women, much more so than men, are in need of protection.

Carmel

why is the preponderence of Weight Watchers membership fat vimen?

caveman

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Thanksgiving thread

by Mulan in

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i posted this a couple of years ago, and thought it was time to resurrect it.

strategically placed aluminum foil made this design.. .

Carmel

You're a real Ham Mulan!

carm

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Agnostic/Atheist/Religion

by Free in

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i feel that since i have lost all faith in the society, i feel myself drifting further and further into more agnosticism / atheistic thinking.i am finding it harder every day to believe in a god or holy scripture.

i actually feel more at peace now not feeling like someone is watching me.

religion now rings a wicked song in my head that sings of control, power, money, greed, and endless seas of falsehood.

Carmel

Two thoughts come to mind. One, the idea of throwing the baby out with the bath water, or two, so to speak, being innoculated. You've experianced one of the worst examples of mistreatement in the name of religion, and have rebounded into the logical sequence of questioning if not all religion is of the same ilk. I could assure you they are not, but that would be too superficial. You need to find out for yourself if religion is all bad or if it has its redeaming nature. Remember though, most all religion that you are likely aware of are already institutionalized and "humanized" with a minimum of 1400 years or more of evolution. They have all gone through a similar pattern of emergence (starting with one central figure) rapid growth in spite of considerable resistance from the milue of ancient belief systems, then ascendency and finally dividing into a myriad of divisions, sapping their elan and elegance, spiriling down into sects, contending factions and eventually needing replacement.

Your search will be rewarded though, if you are persistant and patient. And, by the way, agnosticism isn't a bad place to be. If you are not sure, it's the only honest description of your true state. Only when you are filled with certitude that is or is not an intelligent force behind all that we know and percieve, OR NOT, can you be anything else but.

I wish you well.

carmel

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Questions for believers in God

by KW13 in

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what god do 'we' believe in?

i am a believer at the moment i think.... .

firstly we are directed away from questioning just how god came into existance - why?

Carmel

One needs to be careful when generalizing about the nature of "God" then limiting their questions to one limited distorted rendering, (ie the OT). There are other "believers" that do not share your assumptions about such literal understandings of scripture such as the Genesis account.

THE UNKNOWABLE ESSENCE

All the people have formed a god in the world of thought, and that form of their own imagination they worship; when the fact is that the imagined form is finite and the human mind is infinite. Surely the infinite is greater than the finite, for imagination is accidental while the mind is essential; surely the essential is greater than the accidental.

Therefore consider: All the sects and peoples worship their own thought; they create a god in their own minds and acknowledge him to be the creator of all things, when that form is a superstition -- thus people adore and worship imagination.

That Essence of the Divine Entity and the Unseen of the unseen is holy above imagination and is beyond thought. Consciousness doth not reach It. Within the capacity of comprehension of a produced reality that Ancient Reality cannot be contained. It is a different world; from it there is no information; arrival thereat is impossible; attainment thereto is prohibited and inaccessible. This much is known: It exists and Its existence is certain and proven -- but the condition is unknown.

All the philosophers and the doctors knew that It is, but they were perplexed in the comprehension of Its existence and were at last discouraged, and in great despair they left this world. For the comprehension of the condition and mysteries of that Reality of realities and Mystery of mysteries there is need for another power and another sense. That power and sense is not possessed by mankind, therefore they have not found any information. For example: If a man possess the power of hearing, the power of tasting, the power of smelling and the power of feeling, but no power of seeing, he cannot see. Hence, through the powers and senses present in man the realization of the Unseen Reality, which is pure and holy above the reach of doubts, is impossible. Other powers are needed and other senses required. If those powers and senses are obtained, then information can be had; otherwise, not

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 381)