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  Just want to get past it........

  by notsureofmyself in

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  i appreciate so much of what is being said here, but frankly i just want it done with.

  i don't even care if their doctrines are right or not, their conduct, their conditional love and their hypocrisy is definitely wrong.. i have given up looking for a church that has the answers, there is none.

  there are no perfect churches, doctrines or people.

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  Carmel

  Notsosure,

  You've gotten some good advice. I can only add that I spent nearly ten years actively seeking the "truth" in other churches. It wasn't until I gave up the "search" and detached myself from it all that things seemed to come together for me. My advice, take a mental holiday and become an expert on something mundane. Rebuild your life by being a quality human being and don't worry about religion, which one is right or not. Life will sort itself out for you if you keep and open mind and heart.

  carmel wishing you well

  (ps, just watch out for one eyed equestrians from Rhodes)
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  Few deep thoughts or feelings

  by TR in

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  it seems that most on this forum are deep thinkers.

  there is much agonizing over the experiences each one has had.

  there was trauma, crisis' of conscience, terrible things seen and done.

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  Carmel

  TR,

  I've always felt after studiing Maslow that most JWs are, in fact as you say, stuck in their moral/ethical development in the self centered stage. They may be able to perform philanthopic deeds for a few in their reference group, generally family members, but basically they are motivated by purile motives of saving their own backsides from biological death. Fear is generally a much stronger motivator for the immature than love.

  I hope that your progress accelerates now that you can reflect on your "previous life" and see that a fulfilled life is one in which you make others happy and in so doing you will gain "the kingdom of god" that is within.

  best to ya

  carmel
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  Reflections

  by Frenchy in

  1. jw
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  im starting a new thread because its time i left the bergman discussion.

  i would like to address some comments made by ahhah, however, comments which have given me reason to look deep into myself.. even then, i wonder how objective a person could ever be after having had part of their life taken from them by a cult association.

  on the other hand, who else (other than an ex-jw) would ever care enough to work as tirelessly as he seems to have in attempting to document the potential harm of this religion (biased as it may be).

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  Carmel

  Ahah,

  The problem is defining the "shoe". Is a sandle a shoe? a boot? a slipper? I have no doubt the WTBTS fits many of the definitions of "cult". How many does it take to say the shoe fits? Once it fits, what then? Does it make us feel any better that we were duped by a cult or by some other term for a self-aggrandizing corporation that makes money selling "spiritual" pornography?

  carmel who weries of the name calling that seems to be an end in itself
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  Reflections

  by Frenchy in

  1. jw
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  im starting a new thread because its time i left the bergman discussion.

  i would like to address some comments made by ahhah, however, comments which have given me reason to look deep into myself.. even then, i wonder how objective a person could ever be after having had part of their life taken from them by a cult association.

  on the other hand, who else (other than an ex-jw) would ever care enough to work as tirelessly as he seems to have in attempting to document the potential harm of this religion (biased as it may be).

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  Carmel

  Ahah,

  Not to sound contrary, but what is this facination with trying to label the JWs as a "cult". The word has so many meanings and once applied, what then? That we all know the majority of the details of its (the borg) duplicity, tactics and methods needs no further labeling in my book.

  It kind of reminds me of the abuse of the word "spiritual"! Does anyone have a solid definition of the term? It's used as an adjective nine thousand ways to the point that it has lost any meaning.

  carmel on his soap box
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  Hi, I'm new here also

  by notsureofmyself in

  1. jw
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  when i first checked out this board i also thought it was a board for active witnesses.

  the more i read, the more i realized that it was pretty much a x-jw board--more to my liking.

  i disassociated myself in december of '98.

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  Carmel

  Well Nelly,

  I like mutten, goat ain't so bad either! Reminds me about the ten doctors that tried Camels but went back to their wives!

  there you go, just like 4eyes leading me astray!

  carmel
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  Hi, I'm new here also

  by notsureofmyself in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i first checked out this board i also thought it was a board for active witnesses.

  the more i read, the more i realized that it was pretty much a x-jw board--more to my liking.

  i disassociated myself in december of '98.

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  Carmel

  Sorry Waiting, didn't see any pictures! Clue me in...

  carmel
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  Reflections

  by Frenchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im starting a new thread because its time i left the bergman discussion.

  i would like to address some comments made by ahhah, however, comments which have given me reason to look deep into myself.. even then, i wonder how objective a person could ever be after having had part of their life taken from them by a cult association.

  on the other hand, who else (other than an ex-jw) would ever care enough to work as tirelessly as he seems to have in attempting to document the potential harm of this religion (biased as it may be).

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  Carmel

  Waiting honey,

  I would never lie to you!

  Candyman
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  Hi, I'm new here also

  by notsureofmyself in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i first checked out this board i also thought it was a board for active witnesses.

  the more i read, the more i realized that it was pretty much a x-jw board--more to my liking.

  i disassociated myself in december of '98.

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  Carmel

  Actually TR,

  It's a typo! It's really a "mounting bloak" Brits need this bloak to help them onto their nags! These fillies turn everthing into innuendo! Sometimes they even accidently make a funny in the effort.

  Carmel wondering what he could do with the whole subject if'n he was herdin sheep!
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  Time Article on Ray Franz - 1985 (scanned)

  by waiting in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey y'all,.

  hope this works.

  if not, see scanned article under the thread about donating books to the local libraries..

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  Carmel

  Just wanted to alert all of you that are in the US and points further west! I'm a few hours ahead of you and so I get the news sooner. Armegeddon started about fifteen minutes ago and is spreading rapidly. By midnight it will be encircling the globe and by the time you wake up and read this, I will have picked out the house I want and occupied it. Already have the red BMW convertible spotted I want in my garage!

  Hope you all make it through! I'll be one of the "Ruler Class" as I have Irish ancestors by the name of "Priest".

  See ya! cept you nasty "apostates".

  Carmel signing off from Elijah's cave!

  ps you can toss your book bags now....
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  Hello All!

  by Peter in

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  i stumbled across this website today.

  i assumed it was all card carrying jws.

  i've been dfed for almost 4 years now and am happy to be out.

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  Carmel

  Did I wake up the dead? Sorry, but sometimes one gets hit by flying feces when standing close to the fan! Old Waiting is such and easy target, I should have taken closer aim so as not to inflict any collateral damage.

  She really knows I have this cyber crush on her and she's just beating up on me knowing I'll always come back for more.

  Sorry of I implicated your peroxide preference.

  carmel slinking away