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  Another Warning From God

  by Kenneson in

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  the message remains the same.

  reform your lives or be chastised.

  from the comments i have read about god's supposed non-existence in this forum, it seems that we will only learn the hard way.

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  gringojj

  Kenneson,

  I am an atheist. I dont believe in ANY type of god.

  Again, could you please answer my question that I just asked in my last post?

  I am not afraid of what I believe in, and would be more than happy to answer ANY question you have for me.
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  Another Warning From God

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the message remains the same.

  reform your lives or be chastised.

  from the comments i have read about god's supposed non-existence in this forum, it seems that we will only learn the hard way.

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  gringojj

  Ok Kenneson so you dont like my analogies. I guess you must be smarter than me to be able to comprehend how a murderous, unjust, evil god is actually a god of love and worthy of worship. Oh well.

  I guess the question I have for you is how do you know that your interpretations of gods word are the correct ones? Does god speak to you and tell you what he wants? Do you follow any organized religion? How do YOU know that these hurricanes are gods wrath? I would really like to know.
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  Question for Defd

  by gringojj in

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  defd we were talking earlier and i didnt want to hijack the other post.

  we were talking about how i believe it is unfair for god to murder his children even though it is his fault that they dont follow his wishes not because they dont want to but because he did not make his wishes clear.. you said that his wishes are clear, but the devil distorts them.. you promised me you would provide me with some examples.

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  gringojj

  In the other thread Defd said this when he was asked to give examples.
  
  

  Just to show that is what the bible says. I will give you an example in a few. right now I am talking to several people and i am about to take lunch. I promise I will get back to you if you want.
  
  Derrick

  So I am sure he will answer.
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  Another Warning From God

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the message remains the same.

  reform your lives or be chastised.

  from the comments i have read about god's supposed non-existence in this forum, it seems that we will only learn the hard way.

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  gringojj

  Kenneson,

  god does not have to answer to us. If he wants us to believe he is a god of hate, who murders children and innocent people, then he need not answer because he has done a great job of letting us know that. However, if he wants us to believe he is a god of love, he needs to show us how that is, because I for one do not see it.

  Time for another analogy.

  Lets say I am the president of the most powerful nation in the world, but I do not let anyone into my country to see it. Nobody is allowed to come in or out of my country. There is also no contact to be made in or out, except that once in awhile I let the world know that I am a president of love. I say that I love all the people of the world, and I am righteous. Nobody ever sees me. When something good happens somewhere in the world, I send out a notice to all the people in the world it was my doing, although the people are skeptical because there is no way to prove or disprove it.

  Now, a few times a month I send out some bombs, and murder and injure thousands of innocent people. The people of the world wonder why I do it, but I just say dont question me, I am a president of love. I dont have to answer to anyone who questions me.

  What do you think the people of the world would think of me?

  Do you think they will see me as a president of love? The person I say I am?
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  Question for Defd

  by gringojj in

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  defd we were talking earlier and i didnt want to hijack the other post.

  we were talking about how i believe it is unfair for god to murder his children even though it is his fault that they dont follow his wishes not because they dont want to but because he did not make his wishes clear.. you said that his wishes are clear, but the devil distorts them.. you promised me you would provide me with some examples.

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  gringojj

  Defd we were talking earlier and I didnt want to hijack the other post.

  We were talking about how I believe it is unfair for god to murder his children even though it is his fault that they dont follow his wishes not because they dont want to but because he did not make his wishes clear.

  You said that his wishes are clear, but the devil distorts them.

  You promised me you would provide me with some examples. Please do that.
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  Another Warning From God

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the message remains the same.

  reform your lives or be chastised.

  from the comments i have read about god's supposed non-existence in this forum, it seems that we will only learn the hard way.

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  gringojj

  Ok Defd I see you are back so answer me now.
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  New Revelation

  by gringojj in

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  i was just looking at some old pictures from wts magazines.

  i noticed something i cant understand.

  the car in the picture is a buick park avenue!

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  gringojj

  sept 1 1997
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  Another Warning From God

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the message remains the same.

  reform your lives or be chastised.

  from the comments i have read about god's supposed non-existence in this forum, it seems that we will only learn the hard way.

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  gringojj

  Defd I am confused.
  Yesterday in another post you said you werent and apostate. You said this.
  

  An APOSTATE is someone who has ABANDONED true worship and begins to become an enemy of God and Jesus ( That I am not). I have NEVER ONCE talked bad about the FS or Jehovahs ORG.

  Then you just said that we have an obligation to follow gods word. If you tell the organization they are wrong, you are an apostate to them. Saying the org is wrong saying god is wrong. The wts says not to come on sites like this. You are here, so you are going against them. You are defying the org, which equals defying god. How are you not an apostate?

  You say that you havent talked bad about the org, fine. But you dont obey them. You do not have to talk bad about something in order to abandon it. Havent you abandoned the org and god by not listening to them?

  If it isnt god who directs the org in making thier rules, then who does? If the devil made these rules, is the devil running the wts?

  Whats going on defd?
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  Emerson (That's Me) Urges Forming House Bible Groups To Replace Watchtower

  by J Mason Emerson in

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  greetings to all readers of good will,

  i'm mason emerson (nicknamed "joe") and as a yahoo.com group i put the following on some websites there to encourage interested readers (exjws or others) to go ahead and form independent nonwatchtower groups for bible fellowship which can meet in homes instead of in kingdom halls.

  i see myself as a catalyst for action by others, not a founder of groups or a sole leader of them, especially given my current health.

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  gringojj

  Why do u need a name? Why cant u just believe in god? Why is everyone so bent on organized religion?
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  Another Warning From God

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the message remains the same.

  reform your lives or be chastised.

  from the comments i have read about god's supposed non-existence in this forum, it seems that we will only learn the hard way.

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  gringojj

  Yes Derrick,

  Please show me examples of the devil distorting things.