Yap been told that many times.
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13Elders: Do as I tell you, whether I'm right or wrong
by KAYTEE inin the last congregation that i frequented, on two separate occasions, and two different elders, i was told to do what they said, whether they were right or wrong!
this brought some ridicule in answer, from my lips.
the elders said to do otherwise is to go against jehovah.
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Do you vote now?
by sass_my_frass indo you think it matters?
how long did it take for you to start voting?
was it liberating?.
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skyman
Yes very liberating
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Honest fading a myth?
by Fatfreek inis honest fading possible?.
i've thought several times that if i had it to do over again, living in this age of jwd with all its online support and encouragement -- along with the huge resource of the internet -- that i'd have faded slowly instead of allowed the disfellowshipping because of apostasy.. on the other hand i wonder if that's all stupid speculation, wishfully thinking it would have prevented the cutting off and the shunning of the remaining family members, especially the children.. i know you'll correct me if i'm wrong on the following premise but i suspect if a person is honest, he cannot prevent the disfellowshipping -- in a great many cases.
i believe that it all depends on the vigilance of the local elders and how penetrating they are in their questions, and how perceptive they are with your answers during sheparding calls.. "um ... brother, we've missed your presence at the meetings and in the field ministry and we're certainly here to help you, but wonder if you've actually lost your faith that jehovah's earthly organization is the correct one.
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skyman
I did it, and I was quit honest with them. They could not answer my questions about why the Society joined the UN. Plus I wrote what I call my BLOOD LETTER that Five differrent Elders tried to answer and one cried after reading it, one quit and is now out. All including one C.O. said the letter was correct but stated I needed to wait on Jehovah to correct it. I have not locally been telling others publishers why I have quit so the Elders leave me alone. Also the Shepperding Book say's if a publisher has not been going to meetings for over a year they are longer a witness so do not DF them. I have reminded the Elders sevreal times about this statement in the shepparding book.
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censorship of hurricane katrina images
by candidlynuts ini've been reading a lot of new orleans area message boards and more and more i'm reading angry posts about the lack of pictures of st bernard parish in particular but the overall censorship of photographs.. anyone heard anything?.
opinons on if censorship is a violation of freedom of the press?.
i know no one wants to see dead bodies floating around..........wait..let me ammend that, most people dont want to see that, people from that area are desperate to search as many pictures as they can see to see if they can find loved ones even if they are dead.. warnings about graphic pictures could be posted and it could be a choice if you view them or not.. are more pictures of the affected areas being shown in international press than the american press?
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skyman
I think it is not right to cencor the picture the pictures are made to look less like death and more rosey which I think slowed down the response
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Can You Apologize When You Are Wrong?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses are the "rightest" people on earth.
they never admit to mistakes.
and if they do, more often than not,obvious sincerity is lacking.
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skyman
I will even if I am not wrong.
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Why are there more JWs on Social Security Beneifits than any other Religion
by MARTINLEYSHON inon a per capita ratio jws ethos for claiming off the state is higher than any other religion.
does anyone have the answer?
i remember in the late 80s the borg came out with an article "uses and abuses of the welfare system".
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skyman
Lazy plus they feed the attitude that less is more even if they do not do more in the service the attitude is still there
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Do the Witnesses apply this scripture?
by JH inso, how would you react if you saw a witness smoking a cigarette?
a) mind your own business.
b) go squeal to the elders.
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skyman
I say help them smoke it. Or if you see someone committing Fornication go help them fornicate.No leave them be unless it is something that is really going to hurt them. Like if the person is married and you see them getting to close to someone of the opposite sex then for the sake of the marriage go and talk to the person alone. Do not talk to the other person mate. Treat others like you would want to be treated. LEAVE THE HEAD HUNTERs OUT OF THE PICTURE!!!
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Do you like who you are?
by damselfly ini was inspired by rat's post.
are you a nice person?
melodramatic?
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skyman
To tell the truth I like who I am. People almost allways like me. Most think I am a true person and can be trusted. I do not like to be serious. I like to have fun and but never at someone elses exspense. Women think I am handsom and men like being around me. Every job, I have ever had I quickly move to being the boss. All my family have made good in the world as far as money is concerned, but I will give you the shirt off my back if you need it. Truely I wish everyone was as happy about life as I am. But when I found out about the Truth about the Troof I had a very hard time. This is the only time in my life that I did not like who I was. Now I am back to the real person that used to be there the funny and likeable me.
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Will Bush change his view on global warming now
by ballistic in.
this is what they are discussing on bbc news 24 right now, in relation to the katrina hurricane.. their conclusion was quite negetive, i was just interested to see if anyone on here had any views?.
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skyman
Doofday
you said I was full of it the above News article has it plainly stated wasy wording for you.
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Will Bush change his view on global warming now
by ballistic in.
this is what they are discussing on bbc news 24 right now, in relation to the katrina hurricane.. their conclusion was quite negetive, i was just interested to see if anyone on here had any views?.
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skyman
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Or search all of our jobs and opportunitiesThe World's No.1 Science & Technology News Service Record ice core gives fair forecast 18:00 09 June 04 NewScientist.com news service As long as humans do not mess it up, the Earth's climate is set at fair for the next 15,000 years. That is according to information extracted from the oldest ice core ever drilled. The Antarctic core is the first to reach as far back as a warm period with characteristics similar to our own interglacial. So it should help make more accurate predictions about when to expect the next deep freeze.
The ice core, drilled from a feature in central Antarctica called Dome C, is around 3 kilometres long and 10 centimetres wide. Changes in the relative proportions of hydrogen isotopes in the ice layers allow scientists to compile a complete record of Antarctic temperatures going back 740,000 years.
The core shows the waxing and waning of eight ice ages. Most critically for making predictions about our climate, it is the first core to record a period known as Termination V, around 430,000 years ago.
Warming pattern
At this point, the world moved from a glacial period into a long, warm interglacial, similar to this era. The previous longest ice-core record, drilled by the Soviet Union at Vostok in Antarctica between 1980 and 1988, went back only 420,000 years.
"All interglacials are slightly different, but we believe Termination V is the most similar to our own," says chief author of the new study, Eric Wolff, at the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, UK. It mirrors the pattern of solar warming between seasons and at different latitudes that are caused by fluctuations in the Earth's orbit known as the Milankovitch cycles.
It shows that the Termination V interglacial was unusually long, lasting 28,000 years. The current interglacial is now 12,000 years old, and some scientists feared that we might be heading for an ice age soon since at least one post-Termination V interglacial lasted just 10,000 years.
But the new findings suggest that even without the human hand in global warming, a new ice age would be unlikely for perhaps another 15,000 years, Wolff says.
Ice blanket
The core also sheds light on how ice ages have changed over the past million years. Since Termination V, ice ages have been very intense, with periods of cold weather that blanketed much of the northern hemisphere in ice for 80,000 years punctuated by short interglacials lasting typically 20,000 years.
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Eric Wolff, British Antarctic Survey European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica Nature But the new core shows that, prior to Termination V, the cold and warm periods of the glacial cycle each lasted around 50,000 years but were much less intense.
"Marine deposits suggested some of this, but it stands out much more clearly in the ice record," Wolff says.
Meanwhile, European and US scientists are discussing plans to survey for a site in Antarctica that will extend the record still further. "We want to go back at least 1.2 million years next time," Wolff says. "But we have to find somewhere that we can do it."
Journal reference: Nature (vol 429, p 623)
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Or search all of our jobs and opportunitiesThe World's No.1 Science & Technology News Service Record ice core gives fair forecast
18:00 09 June 04 NewScientist.com news service As long as humans do not mess it up, the Earth's climate is set at fair for the next 15,000 years. That is according to information extracted from the oldest ice core ever drilled.
The Antarctic core is the first to reach as far back as a warm period with characteristics similar to our own interglacial. So it should help make more accurate predictions about when to expect the next deep freeze.
The ice core, drilled from a feature in central Antarctica called Dome C, is around 3 kilometres long and 10 centimetres wide. Changes in the relative proportions of hydrogen isotopes in the ice layers allow scientists to compile a complete record of Antarctic temperatures going back 740,000 years.
The core shows the waxing and waning of eight ice ages. Most critically for making predictions about our climate, it is the first core to record a period known as Termination V, around 430,000 years ago.
Warming pattern
At this point, the world moved from a glacial period into a long, warm interglacial, similar to this era. The previous longest ice-core record, drilled by the Soviet Union at Vostok in Antarctica between 1980 and 1988, went back only 420,000 years.
"All interglacials are slightly different, but we believe Termination V is the most similar to our own," says chief author of the new study, Eric Wolff, at the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, UK. It mirrors the pattern of solar warming between seasons and at different latitudes that are caused by fluctuations in the Earth's orbit known as the Milankovitch cycles.
It shows that the Termination V interglacial was unusually long, lasting 28,000 years. The current interglacial is now 12,000 years old, and some scientists feared that we might be heading for an ice age soon since at least one post-Termination V interglacial lasted just 10,000 years.
But the new findings suggest that even without the human hand in global warming, a new ice age would be unlikely for perhaps another 15,000 years, Wolff says.
Ice blanket
The core also sheds light on how ice ages have changed over the past million years. Since Termination V, ice ages have been very intense, with periods of cold weather that blanketed much of the northern hemisphere in ice for 80,000 years punctuated by short interglacials lasting typically 20,000 years.
Subscribe to New Scientist for more news and features Related Stories
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Eric Wolff, British Antarctic Survey European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica Nature But the new core shows that, prior to Termination V, the cold and warm periods of the glacial cycle each lasted around 50,000 years but were much less intense.
"Marine deposits suggested some of this, but it stands out much more clearly in the ice record," Wolff says.
Meanwhile, European and US scientists are discussing plans to survey for a site in Antarctica that will extend the record still further. "We want to go back at least 1.2 million years next time," Wolff says. "But we have to find somewhere that we can do it."
Journal reference: Nature (vol 429, p 623)
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