my friend has been struggling in the 'truth' for a while, she was never really a model jw and since ive been dfed and her little sister was abused shes wanted to leave but cant seem to find the way to do it.
so she rung me today and told me she is meeting with the elders (two i think) as she has told them she has questions and wants answers.. i think her overall hope is that they dont answer her questions and she finds the strength to leave!
(she says sometimes shed like them to df her but i think thats just coz she wants to go so much!.
thanks ballistic nice to hear from u,
jaffa i cant pm its not working properly but my email is [email protected] i would really appreciate u giving me some things to tell her.
i thought if she wanted to get dfed she should concerntrate on the un 607 etc but they would prob know its come from me (and im not sure how i feel about that!) but i want to help her the best way i can she defo doesnt want to be talked round not sure of the best way to go.
my friend has been struggling in the 'truth' for a while, she was never really a model jw and since ive been dfed and her little sister was abused shes wanted to leave but cant seem to find the way to do it.
so she rung me today and told me she is meeting with the elders (two i think) as she has told them she has questions and wants answers.. i think her overall hope is that they dont answer her questions and she finds the strength to leave!
(she says sometimes shed like them to df her but i think thats just coz she wants to go so much!.
thanks everyone thats what i told her.
thing is she seems to want to be dfed as she thinks she will never leave otherwise! i dont think they will df her i think they may try and answer her questions (am i being stupid?) but she was just gonna say things like 'i dont agree with my friend being dfed or my sister being abused' etc
and i think she needs to ask geniune questions about the beliefs if she wants to be dfed am i right?
my friend has been struggling in the 'truth' for a while, she was never really a model jw and since ive been dfed and her little sister was abused shes wanted to leave but cant seem to find the way to do it.
so she rung me today and told me she is meeting with the elders (two i think) as she has told them she has questions and wants answers.. i think her overall hope is that they dont answer her questions and she finds the strength to leave!
(she says sometimes shed like them to df her but i think thats just coz she wants to go so much!.
my friend has been struggling in the 'truth' for a while, she was never really a model jw and since ive been dfed and her little sister was abused shes wanted to leave but cant seem to find the way to do it.
so she rung me today and told me she is meeting with the elders (two i think) as she has told them she has questions and wants answers.
i think her overall hope is that they dont answer her questions and she finds the strength to leave! (she says sometimes shed like them to df her but i think thats just coz she wants to go so much!
anyway she hasnt axcess to a computer but i would love to show her your comments show her she is right to have doubts, but does anyone have any advice on taking their doubts to the elders (will she get dfed for that) and is there any really GOOD things she can (innocently) say to really tie them in knots??
please help x
i think the hardest thing i ever went through was my divorce.
it was something i knew i needed to go through, and get over, but it was the hardest thing of my life.
i wanted the divorce, but it was so very painful.... what's the hardest thing you've ever gone through?
((((((hugs to everyone)))))))))))))
i feel like im going thru my hardest thing right now got to tell my lovely family i dont want the 'truth' (they think i will get reinstated very soon and they cry all the time etc etc coz if you dont want the 'truth' apparently that means you may as well be dead!
and tell my husband i cant go back to a violent releationship, tho hes threatened me that if i dont go back he will try and take my daughter away from me (coz basically i moved out of my gorgous house and am really struggling finacially, im scared that may help him get custody coz i am so in debt!)
i sometimes feel i should just go back to my old life and make everyone happy, but i know i would be living a lie i have to tell them just dont know how,
and think thats the hardest thing ive got to do BUT after reading all your threads i know there are much worse things in life and it has helped me have a little perpestive thank you
well, its been a while since i was made a unbaptized publisher.
now my hand is going to be forced and i will have to be baptized by the end of the year.
my gf wants my decision very soon, like the next couple of days.
dont do it if you are not sure if you get baptized and later dont want it you will be dfed and that will be even more upsetting for your gf.
on the other hand if she is marring you and wanting a elder somewhere down the line then that wont work either, i know coz i met my ex hubby and he wasnt baptised (tho brought up in it) and i had such a spiritual background that our goals just werent the same he was never spiritual enough it was all we ever rowed about! mad because now im the dfed one and dont believe it now!
but if your gf just wants status then you will both never be happy,
sorry that sounds harsh but i do believe it!
there is a lot of cover up going on in the uk at the moment.
letters from the society etc to shrewbury conga and some of the kent congs.. one andrew spicer, pioneer who married early april 2005 in a kent congregation moved to shrewsbury area with his new wife to pioneer.
by 22 may 2005 he was dead.
this has made me think i actually know a few jws who killed themself, one was a deaf man from my old hall who hung himself upstairs and left loads of notes on every stair saying dont go up! (of course they went up!)
and a woman recently in a hall two congs away (she was depressed)
and a lad of 18 (my brothers friend) from mcr he hung himself in a wardrobe.(they think it may have been a mistake)
and at the 'famous' jah jireh homes the matron gassed herself in her car!
isnt that sad how many i can think of without even trying, shows what the religon drives people too.
hope springs eternal in the wts.
despite having left before even being baptized, i would have to say my parents still wholeheartedly believe i will someday come around, .
get baptized, become active and maybe even become an elder !
ive been dfed 6 months and my dad hasnt stopped checking on me and i have somehow agreed to putting my reinstatement letter in in two weeks!!
only coz i wanted to please him, i know the elders will not let me back just yet, i want to tell my dad i dont want the 'truth' but havent a clue how to do it!
good thread x
many people have nicknames.
well, here on jwd i'm called "rat".
in real life, i don't have any.
i clicked on that link and got candy ass!!
at school it was roundabout.
we know where jehovah's witnesses get the rules for disfellowshipping, matthew 18:15-18, from jesus.
nwt:matt 18:15 "moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.
if he listens to you, you have gained your brother.
this stuff really annonys me i have just started athread about a big decission i have to make as i am dfed which will mean me losing my entire family, all because of the religons rules on dfing,
didnt jesus fufill the old laws?
didnt ancient isrealites just walk accross their doorstep with their partners and that meant they were married? id like to see what would happen if we all followed that particular rule! (how can they pick and choose like that?)
didnt jesus eat with judas when he knew he was going to betray him? etc etc
the more i hear the madder it makes me, this fooked up religon is spiltting peoples lives apart!!
i was in downtown annapolis today and went into a british/irish store that sells goods imported from the uk.
i saw a bottle of marmite and decided to try it.
i bought the bottle, and when i got home i tried it.
i cant believe you all!!
its fantastic stuff especially with a cup of bovril with pepper in, ummmmm (tho it makes u pretty thirsty!)
i think its meant to be good for you too, if it is its about the only thing i like thats good for me.
hail marmite!!!
