I've been meaning to send a DA letter in anyhow, just haven't gotten around to it yet. Let me know the timeframe and I'll send it out then.
Posts by luna2
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21First annual Apostate Independence Day?? Any takers? Lurkers L00k please.
by IP_SEC inlet me start by saying that i have the deepest respect for all of you who have left the organization.
some of us choose to leave in spirit only but remain physically for any number of reasons.
i have respect for you because youve been able to push through what i know is a terribly dense cloud to get to the point where you see the org for what it really is.. others choose to fade, which in many ways is harder than leaving out right.
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Witness Convention Banta fodder - lose your music career + go fulltime!
by Dogpatch insatisfaction beyond music
amelia couple will share its story during this weekend's jehovah's witnesses' meeting
by alberta lindsey times-dispatch staff writer saturday, july 2, 2005 .
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luna2
Awww, that Prince is an awfully pretty little fella!
As for the article, it makes me sad for those people. I am sure they will come to regret their decision eventually.
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Kinesiology - what is the current stand? (Any elders?)
by ithinkisee ini don't feel like pretending i have genuine concern to go to a local elder and ask ... so i ask you .... what is the deal with kinesiology as far as jws?
the 94 wt where they talk about it sounds generally like the answer is no.
everything i read about the origins are traced back to some chiropractor who supposedly had occult origins ... .
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luna2
blondie said: So strange for a group of people that are conditioned to think that blood transfusions are dangerous medicine and not proven to be helpful and then to turn to medical treatments that have at best a few personal testimonies that are not scientifically verifiable.
If they have a distrust of authority figures in general and of the medical community in particular (mainly because of the reaction to JW no-blood policies), it sort of makes sense that they'd embrace these alternative medical treatments. There is almost a feeling that conventional medicine is so hidebound and arrogant that it won't accept something new or different from what is taught in medical schools.
Ugh...I'm not expressing this well. LOL sorry.
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My brother wants to talk to me about why I left the org. He is JW.
by avengers inas many of you know i live in holland.. i'm visiting the us now and my brother who is now at the convention.
in tacoma wa wants to talk to me about the reason why i left the org.. actually i'd like to, but what i'm afraid of is that it will turn into an argument,.
he and his wife are really gung ho dubbies and .
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luna2
Good luck to you! It does rather sound like a fight waiting to happen....unless he's having doubts?? Otherwise, I wouldn't be surprised if he got all fired up at the convention and wants to "save" you.
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Aloha From Hawaii!
by BrendaCloutier inhawaii is here, wish you were beautiful..... lol
i love it here in hilo - e side of big island.
rain, sun, clouds, rainbows, and really really nice people.
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luna2
Sounds like you are having such a lovely time!
I visited Ohau many years ago and loved it. Wish we would have been able to see some of the other islands too.
It's too bad the property prices have increased so drastically...that has to be discouraging.
Enjoy your last two weeks!
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Pay, Salary etc
by ballistic ini discovered today that my company are paying newbies (trainees) considerably more than me,.
i'm a bit miffed about it to be honest.
i don't think i'm on a bad wage, but it doesn't seem right that.
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luna2
If you are sure that you are considered a valuable employee and that they'd not want to lose you, you could drop hints that you are consdering looking elsewhere for employment???? Might spur them to bring your wages into line perhaps.
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Knocking Doc
by stevenyc inhi guys,.
i orginally wrote this in dogpatch's post http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/93613/1.ashx but i thought it would be more appropriate to put it in a different topic.
thats the initial connection.
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luna2
Probably depends on how it is received, Honesty. LOL I'd imagine he'll be quite popular with JW's at any rate (well, as long as he doesn't say anything too critical of them).
Interesting info, steve.
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Are we like jilted lovers?
by Fatfreek inmoments ago on good morning america they did a piece on a recovering mormon, heather armstrong.
the point of it seemed to be that she is handling her depression in part through her blogging journal.
an analyst on that show recounted how armstrong is, in effect, receiving group therapy by her online blogging.. my thoughts immediately went to this forum and how it is so therapeutic to many, me included, as recovering jws.
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luna2
...but later as we started clocking what had happened we realised we had been taken for a ride, and we only felt anger that we had been duped
Katiek...this is true. I guess that's what I'm dealing with now. There's anger at God, anger at the WTS and, anger and sorrow directed at myself. I chose this. I thought this was real. Where did my brain go?
This is what I felt after my marriage starting going sour too. I was angry at my ex for not knowing his own mind and making promises that he quickly came to regret and didn't want to keep, but mostly I was angry at ME for not being smarter. There were a lot of things that I ignored or hoped would change (fatal, fatal reasoning) with time. Seems like I learned relatively nothing from this experience and did the very same thing when the dubs came along.
Both of these major life decisions are over and done with now...I've lived with my choices as best I could, got out when it became necessary for survival, and tried to mop up the mess that was left. Most of the hot anger and pain I felt when things first fell apart is gone and I don't walk around with my hands fisted or a scowl on my face by any means. I'm a relatively happy person and much more at peace these days.
What bothers me now is that I don't have a clue in the world of how to avoid being scammed in the future (both in personal relationships and in other things like religion or business) other than to be suspicious of everything and everybody. I worry that my decision-making abilities are so weak and I'm so flawed that I might not be able to make intelligent choices. It's kind of awful not being able to trust yourself.
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Does anyone Love Jehovah anymore?
by defd in.
i know people have left for people issues but what about jehovah god and jesus?
what have they done?.
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luna2
IP_SEC....love your haiku!
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Are we like jilted lovers?
by Fatfreek inmoments ago on good morning america they did a piece on a recovering mormon, heather armstrong.
the point of it seemed to be that she is handling her depression in part through her blogging journal.
an analyst on that show recounted how armstrong is, in effect, receiving group therapy by her online blogging.. my thoughts immediately went to this forum and how it is so therapeutic to many, me included, as recovering jws.
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luna2
I agree with you, Ff.
Having been cheated on and then dumped by my ex (who I loved at the time, even though I probably shouldn't have), I've got to say that it's a lot like that. Lots of pain, emotional damage, feelings of worthlessness and anger.
I believed whole-heartedly in this crap and put so much into it only to end up feeling duped and used. At least I got to leave this bad relationship on my own. I think its even more painful when you get jettisoned.
Edit: LOL IP....Maybe I should get a new attitude!