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Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?
by LoveUniHateExams inhi all.. i'm 42 years old.
i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.
how many jabs have you had?.
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Deuteronomy 23:1 funny verse
by neat blue dog ini'm surprised i only noticed this just now, deuteronomy 23:1:.
"no man who has been castrated by having his testicles crushed or who has had his male organ cut off may come...".
🤣.
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carla
Weren't the eunuchs who protected harems castrated? I had read somewhere that it made them mean, I suppose so, protecting all those beauties and not being able to dip into the pond so to speak.
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Praise Jehovah God, Jehovah's Witnesses are not part of 'The Disinformation Dozen'
by was a new boy in'so who are the disinformation dozen?
1. joseph mercola .
2. robert f. kennedy, jr. .
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carla
Censorship is never a good thing. Even if you disagree with someone we should be free to discuss and have differing opinions. What is happening lately with the woke society, cancel culture and shunning the unvaccinated should not be tolerated in free society. Lest we forget-
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. - Martin NiemöllerI will draw the same conclusion I had when my jw first joined up once again, he was warned not to look at nor listen to anything negative about the society or jw's as a whole. He in fact was threatened if he did. If your group, org, whatever is telling you that you must not look at anything negative in regard to it's beliefs that should be a huge red flag. That should spur you on to do more research not less about any subject that someone warns you off of. The cult of vaccination today is no different than what me & my jw cult member experienced when he first joined up. He is now fully immersed/assimilated with no hope in sight of real truth or even looking at real court cases, truth, or biblical changes made, etc.... I see no difference at all. The vaccinate group will not even look at why someone can't or simply will not be for scientific reasons, religious (76 abortions used not 2), long term unknowns, gullian barr (sp?) 1st trimester miscarriages , recent chemo patient, etc...etc.. -
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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carla
Are you suggesting we follow the money? Shocking! follow the money when so many are suffering? what kind of nut job are you? you must be some cold hearted so and so or wait, what is this? (just one quick article)-https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomotognini/2021/04/06/meet-the-40-new-billionaires-who-got-rich-fighting-covid-19/?sh=6d147f4217e5
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The stupid dems are tying to push BS in the infrastructure bill, who would have thought it.
by mickbobcat inso i was listing to the news and in the infrastructure bill there is a part that will tax you on how many miles you drive.
this is above the state and federal gas tax.
so now they will control and monitor your millage and tax you on it.
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carla
Yes, thank you, you made my point more succinctly. (I figured you knew all that anyway) Surprisingly even wind farms and solar also have their issues. My question was rhetorical not pointed at you and I agree with the rape of other countries.
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The stupid dems are tying to push BS in the infrastructure bill, who would have thought it.
by mickbobcat inso i was listing to the news and in the infrastructure bill there is a part that will tax you on how many miles you drive.
this is above the state and federal gas tax.
so now they will control and monitor your millage and tax you on it.
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carla
Data Dog, the materials come from places like this but not our (western) backyards- (I correct myself we in the US do in fact have one-
The lithium mine located 20 miles from Borate Hills is the only commercial lithium mine in North America and it is being greatly supported by the state of Nevada-picture is not in the US, hell we don't want our land looking like this, as long as it is somewhere else that's ok. We don't mind polluting and using slave labor to get the latest technology. We are moral and don't pollute. Did you sign up for you electric car yet? latest I Phone?
Why is it ok to plunder the natural resources of our neighbors but not mess up our own backyards?
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Splitting furs
by Jofi_Wofo ini'm half listening in on my wife's zoom meeting.
in my decade+ in the org, i don't remember ever getting into such minutia about jw hunting rules.. apparently, it's ok to kill an animal to use its skin as a clothing accessory, but it's not ok to kill an animal to use its antlers as a wall decoration.. not mentioned in the talk: whether or not its ok to kill an animal to wear its antlers as a hat.. .
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carla
So all the guys in the midwest who have their mancaves and basements filled with stuffed deer are quaking in their jw boots now hoping no elders stop by? Will they hide them in their bedroom like lots of ex jw's do with their Christmas trees?
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The stupid dems are tying to push BS in the infrastructure bill, who would have thought it.
by mickbobcat inso i was listing to the news and in the infrastructure bill there is a part that will tax you on how many miles you drive.
this is above the state and federal gas tax.
so now they will control and monitor your millage and tax you on it.
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carla
Didn't they try to do this a number of year ago and the truck drivers, rural areas, farmers, etc.... make enough noise to shut it down then? I think they will try to get in in without anybody noticing due to all the other things people have to worry about today. The news should start with, "While you weren't looking....." or "While we were busy repeating the same news 24/7 we missed the following that has now become law....." or maybe, "While we all trying to find what to be offended with today we missed some important news...."
Feeling cynical
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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carla
"A drug that is assumed to help at the early stage of infection but even its manufacturer says that it should not be used outside of clinical trials..."- Drugs are used off label every single day in the US and around the world, here is just one article about that- https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/off-label-drug-use-what-you-need-to-know Many countries are now starting to use ivermectin and even in the US though it will not be reported in mainstream news. See therapies to deal with those who are sick instead of waiting until it is too late to even treat them https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/math-plus-protocol/
"...vaccinations that are proven more effective in lowering symptoms and possibly transmissions ?"- Obviously the vaccines are not working that well if you consider Israel or Iceland for example. They have the highest vaccine compliance and some of the highest 'breakthrough' covid cases.
If Joe had the vaccine and Mary didn't they both get sick (they both are in relatively good health, below 60 etc..) Joe has very mild symptoms and thinks he may just have a cold, he continues on with life thinking that. He believes that because he is vaccinated he is free to go the store, dinner, work, etc... Mary on the other hand did not previously ever have covid nor did she have the shot, she is pretty sick, flu-ish feeling and stays home because, well, because most people do stay home if they have flu like symptoms. Who will be spreading covid? Joe or Mary?
Pfizer has admitted that efficacy drops considerably after 4-6 months while natural immunity is durable and lasting. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19 If one has recovered from covid they do not need the vaccine and if you had the vaccine you should not worry if they guy next to you has had a shot or not, he/she may have already had covid and have natural immunity.
Another think to think of https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/information-security-expert-on-revealed-pfizer-agreements-theres-good-reason-pfizer-fought-to-hide-the-details-of-these-contracts/
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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carla
Why do people have to call names and say that doctors, virologists, etc.. who have as much education (and sometimes more) real world experience in ER's and hospitals are pseudo scientists or lesser than the doctors who are pushing the vaccine without debate?
This entire issue has become a 'religion' of sorts where one cannot even look at alternative views to make an educated decision for themselves without being called names or shunned. It reminds me so much of when my jw first joined the cult. He was warned off of looking at any alternative views at all, in fact he was threatened if he did. Much like those who are trying to have the discussion about the vaccines, natural immunity vs man made and so forth, they are dismissed as nutters, called various names and their mental status is questioned.
Treating the unvaccinated like lepers will not help society. Nor will it stop covid. Many people cannot get the vaccine or do not want it for various reasons. Society cannot run around saying 'my body, my choice' in regard to abortion or in the case of jw's, refusal of blood and then tell others they do not also have the right to say 'my body, my choice'.
If you have had the vaccine you should trust it enough not to care if your neighbor or the guy next to you in line has had it.
Data Dog, I have heard & read the same thing.