Posts by carla

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Jehovah's New Light

by Vanderhoven7 in

what new light from jehovah did you find hard to swallow?.

the conversations in the attached video are enlightening.

the graphic is hilarious.. https://youtu.be/byj3zrpbuvg.

carla

jw are trained to lie- The 2016 No 1 WT defines lying as follows:

WHAT IS IT? Saying something false to someone who is entitled to know the truth. Lying can include misrepresenting or distorting facts in order to mislead a person, omitting key information to deceive someone, and exaggerating the truth in order to give a false impression.

the above was from this thread- https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5719164060696576/jehovahs-witnesses-taught-lie-but-then-lie-about-lying

Ask a jw who is 'entitled' to the truth and they will likely say everyone. Then show them the quote out of their own literature and they wiggle and worm their way around it and finally change the subject. That has been my experience.

"...you have to be careful of what you say because you can drive them in harder."- well yeah, that's true.

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Jehovah's New Light

by Vanderhoven7 in

what new light from jehovah did you find hard to swallow?.

the conversations in the attached video are enlightening.

the graphic is hilarious.. https://youtu.be/byj3zrpbuvg.

carla

The truth should be able to withstand scrutiny Fisherman.

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WT Style Pacificism

by Sea Breeze in

episode 203 of netflix ... i am a killer looks at the murder of christopher chavez in texas.

christopher chavez was a 22 year old ministerial servant and a born-in son of an jw elder.

after a thursday night meeting and a quick bite to eat afterwards with friends at a local restaurant, he was kidnapped, taken to a gas station and forced to drive his killers around for hours while they were in the back seat.

carla

My jw made it very clear that I would be on my own if someone was killing me or the kids. I find that pretty darn hard to live with sometimes. Imagine, a stranger would come to our defense when our own husband and father wouldn't, hard to believe isn't it? I tell people that sometimes and they don't believe it would actually play out that way. When I mention that one is allowed to protect oneself and family he agrees in theory at times other times I guess it is whatever the wt is selling at the moment. Depends which way the light happens to be blinking.

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

carla

I didn't say anything about the polio vax. If you actually went to the link and read it you would have seen that I cut and pasted from ABC News story- "LONDON -- Four African countries have reported new cases of polio linked to the oral vaccine, as global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild."

It always amazes me when people comment but don't actually read what they are commenting on. Not everything is so very black and white even with vaccines. The fact that so few seem to understand wild polio from vaccine induced polio is disturbing to say the least. Give the kids the right vaccine to begin with and this wouldn't have happened. This caused many not to trust the powers that be, WHO, governmental health, etc....

Why do so many not trust WHO, US Gov, etc... when it comes to covid vax? if the past 2 years doesn't tell you than how about this article? gain of function or no? They aren't even trying to pretend it's not anymore- https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.13.512134v1.full

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

carla

More polio cases now caused by vaccine than by wild virus as 4 African countries report them

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290

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Illinois Elders as mandatory reporters must undergo training

by Diogenesister in

illinois now requires all elders as mandatory reporters to undergo state approved training every three years to ensure they fully understand their roles as mandated reporters.

this will include a pre training assessment, 60 - 90 mins of self paced, interactive training with a final assessment to ensure reporters understand their responsibilities.

following the course, mandated reporters must make a declaration that they understand their status as a reporter and will fully comply with mandatory requirements.

carla

Thank you for explaining!

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Illinois Elders as mandatory reporters must undergo training

by Diogenesister in

illinois now requires all elders as mandatory reporters to undergo state approved training every three years to ensure they fully understand their roles as mandated reporters.

this will include a pre training assessment, 60 - 90 mins of self paced, interactive training with a final assessment to ensure reporters understand their responsibilities.

following the course, mandated reporters must make a declaration that they understand their status as a reporter and will fully comply with mandatory requirements.

carla

I don't understand why they focus on IL and not all states. I have a therapist friend who says all states have a mandatory reporting obligation.

Here is a link and you can go to your state to see what or who is required to report. I typed in a few states and they all had the following- https://mandatedreporter.com/blog/how-many-states-have-mandated-reporting-laws/

Members of the clergy or religious order, including brothers, ministers, monks, nuns, priests, rabbis, or sisters

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More money and meeting with 3 elders

by Foolednomore in

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friends

so, we had this meeting with 3 elders ( larry, moe and curly) my uncle who is the lawyer sat in the room and stayed quiet, and fact for 40 minutes we let them talk.

we would just sit there.

they went into along winded monolog about how the world is in bad shape and getting worst.

carla

I once showed my jw that Jesus was not his mediator and he still wouldn't believe it. Not sure he quite understands it today.

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Grace Gough ("Mouthy") and the 83 Tapes

by JW_Researcher in

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friends

grace gough (“mouthy’) sent me 83 cassette tapes 16 years ago (2006).. .

when she sent them, i understood them to be ‘testimonies’ of jws who became christians.

there are some labeled “so-and-so’s testimony” so at least some are that.. others appear to be talks, like the morning session of the 1981 “ex –jws for jesus” convention.

carla

She is sent me a bunch too, I sent them on to a ministry.

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Lifetime Regret for Not Expressing my Love to a Non-JW

by a-JW-girl in

i want to impart some advice from my life experience that i hope will help others in a similar situation and prevent them from making the same mistakes i did, ruining my life.

to begin with, i’m a 52-year-old single woman, i’ve been a devout jw since i was a little girl.

i had an abusive dad who left my mom, my two sisters and me when we were fairly young.

carla

You were having an emotional affair and you regret not breaking up his family for your own pleasure? you regret not having his kids grow up with a dad in their house and loving their mother? you have lived 25 years in a fantasy of your own making and continue to fantasize about what could have been?

Simply because you two didn't actually have sex doesn't mean that your relationship wasn't completely inappropriate in normal circumstances much less for a jw.

I would be of the opinion that you need therapy to live out what days you have left in joy and learn how to let go of this fantasy you have in your head. Pining away for years and years for what may or may not have been reality is not healthy. You also need help to navigate the whole jw thing as well and learn how to leave it behind as well. It is a toxic cult. Please find a counselor to help you through this.