Does your wife have any idea about this? And what special assembly? Everywhere? and does anyone know if there is going to be somesort of thing on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day of this year? No I don't mean Christmas for them, just on those days a jw event.
Posts by carla
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22They are giving my kids notebooks for the special assembly. Why?
by Check_Your_Premises innow if they were only giving them to my children, i would raise cain, because it is an obvious attempt to imply that they have to provide what i am not.
it is also an influence ploy, in that by giving them a gift, it obligates them to use the gift.. but they gave them to all the kids and everyone at the book study.
the sweet part was that i actually showed up.
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Chasing rainbows - how I got engaged in Paris
by Abaddon ini took kate, my girlfriend of between the last five and ten years (depending how you define girlfriend) to paris this weekend and proposed.
i had a couple of scenarios mapped out, but was playing it by ear as to the right moment.. on saturday night when we sat down to eat at a restaurant the waiter asked me if i "had got engaged to the lady yet", and then said "if not, i will".
i'm sure he does it to every foreign couple where the women isn't wearing a ring but i could not believe it that one .
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carla
How lovely! Congratulations! carla
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Legalism and JW's: Arguing putting faith in grace rather than jw works
by Check_Your_Premises inmany christians who have had to deal with a jw on any kind of regular basis will come around to discussions on how salvation is accepted.
now the jw will say that salvation is through faith alone, but then they will insist that we must obey.
furthermore they have a great deal of faith in their spiritual regimen to keep them on the straight and narrow.. this is how i explained it to one recently.. so often when we are trying to understand god's relationship with man, it is useful to consider the analogy of a father to his child.
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carla
Wouldn't expect that they would have much to say about that. Had that same conversation myself with a jw. (funny how us ubm's are here tonight hey?)
The argument to look at our relationship with God and that of a parent doesn't seem to hold with jw's. As we see, a jw parent will often give up their child. If one is to believe the Bible, God would not do that, at least in the NT. I have found that my jw simply does not understand what 'mature Christian' means. To simply change behavior instead of ones heart does not lead to maturity. The constant fear of 'what if I get found out' or 'that's not allowed' or 'we (jw's) don't do that', rather than a true feeling of trying to please Christ is what leads to maturity.They are so busy trying to please the men of the org and making good appearances in the hall. Another analogy could be when you are in love, you so want to please the other person because you love them. He cannot seem to understand that people can indeed make the right choices in life without the aid of someone telling them what to do. Why? Well, that's when they like to point out your own personal failings "and see what you do?" Then it turns into a 'take the log out of your eye first' thing. Then it will go to 'aren't you doing the same thing when you point out all the failings of the wt?' around and around.
When your children are little they want to please you because 'you know everything' and they love you dearly. Then they turn into teenagers and want to spread their wings a bit, maybe you don't know everything (and maybe nothing!). When they become an adult you hope you have given them the tools to make those right choices, not because you as the parent will be unahappy by their choice, but because certain choices really will hurt them in the long run. I too know a few kids who just went off to college, the ones with the super strict parents are partying it up. And for the girls especially I worry. They just cannot judge character at all. How could they when they have been kept in a bubble all these years? I found that when you expect the best from them they will usually make those right choices. Maybe I have just been blessed with mature and great kids, I dunno.
As for the law being written upon our hearts, how do jw's feel about that? For instance, in almost every culture (even tribal) certain things are shall we say 'illegal'. Incest, rape, murder and so on. What is also interesting to me is that in almost all cultures also is the belief in some sort of afterlife. That something, some part of 'you' continues and lives on.
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Family ,what would you do
by kls ini am going to try and explain this with out dragging this on so here goes, i am the youngest of four sibblings,i have a older brother which i never see and two older sisters.
i am close to my sister that is close in age to me but have a sister that is about ten years older.
when i was a teen my dad killed himself and the mother was a 24 hr mean drunk who after my dads death was committed to a nut ward.
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carla
I'm sorry for the whole blasted situation KLS. You could do the flowers but I think what some of the others have said may be true. Would you become a subject of gossip at the wake? You could maybe just but an ad in the paper in memory of... and send donations to some child abuse place or Silentlambs and suggest others do the same. Just a thought. carla
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Book Study Wk 15 10/03: pg 105-107: A RIDDLE SOLVED
by ithinkisee in*** dp chap.
7 four words that changed the world ***.
a riddle solved!.
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carla
When they refer to 1919 and jw's being freed and so on, isn't that when Rutherford was released from jail? Don't have my books handy and memory is failing me today!
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I AM GETTING MORE BOLD! (BUT I LIKE IT)
by stillAwitness inso i was at a friend's house (for a gathering) blah!
and i noticed she had one of those porfessional pitcures done that looked like her at prom.
i asked her about it and she said quickly "no, that was a formal i went to last year) i said "oh, so exaclty what is a formal?
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carla
Oh please do tell more about how jw's 'don't' celebrate any holidays. I've even got a few. A friend with a jw grandma told me how she bought him a washer & drier for his new apt.(also his birthday was then) but, kept wanting to preach to him. She felt that because she bought him those large items he should be grateful and listen. He told her in no uncertain terms that if that was the conditions to keep the washer & drier to get them out of there! Husband used to get gifts for me around holidays but not anymore.
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Watchtower Information Service is renewed!
by Rado Vleugel indue to personal circumstances i was not able to spent a lot of time updating watchtower information service and posting on this board.
but i am back!
the last few months i spent many hours rebuilding watchtower information service into a dynamic website.
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carla
Very nice! put it in my favorites. carla
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Well, I handled that amazingly well...
by Joel Wideman inas my wife predicted, my mother heard that she da'd herself.
she called, and spoke with my boy for awhile.
(she needs her medication adjusted.
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carla
Youv'e got more self restraint than I would have! Good for you for protecting your kids! all the best, carla
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What silly rules did your congregation make up?
by weinermcgee inelders were famous for making up stupid rules with no bible base at all as an ego trip i guess, what were some of yours?
i am not talking about the stupid rules that we all had to follow, just the congregation specific silly ones.. 1. having to button your jacket while on stage (this was later changed due to all the elders having a beer gut).
2. suits only or no privledges.
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carla
my favorite kind of thread again! So that's why he's on a big kick to get 'suits'. He's got plenty of sport coats just not complete suits. hmm, he's been wanting a motorcycle though. Guess they got rid of that one?
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Did being a witness make you lose your social skills?
by AK - Jeff ini am out of the borg now about two years - but can say that i still have no social group in my life to replace them.
i participate in several activities that i consider social in nature - this board as example.
i have some 'acquaintances', but no real social structure in my life.
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carla
oops! so it was! to his son then.