I never understood the jw "where else would we go" argument. If they are truly Bible believers they would look to the Bible itself and see John 6:68-Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life." They would see the question is "to whom" not "to where". The "whom" is Jesus but they probably changed that in their version I suppose. Of course one would have to be a believer to use the John 6 scripture.
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If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?
by Disillusioned JW insometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?
' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?
' what do you folks say?.
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Praying for others?
by pixel ini’m looking for an article, from the watchtower, where it says that we should not pray for other members from the stage.
does anyone remember an article saying this?.
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carla
What on earth would the reasoning be for not praying for somebody? What do jw's do with the following scriptures?
Matthew 5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Proverbs 25:21
If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.Luke 6:27
But to those of you who will listen, I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, -
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Very Droll this !
by Phizzy ina hindu, a rabbi, and a jehovah's witness are lost.
they wander across a farmstead and ask to spend the night.. "i only have room for two, so one of you will have to stay in the barn," says the farm owner.. the hindu immediately volunteers, insisting it's no problem.
however, a few minutes later, he knocks on the front door.. "i'm sorry, but there is a cow in the barn, and they are sacred to me.".
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Has someone messaged me ?
by jhine inhi folks .
i haven't been on for a while and looked in today to see a notification that l had a pm .
however l can't see anything newer than a couple of months ago , which l had already opened .
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carla
Congratulations! Wishing you both all the best!
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I am still not able to solve this God's name paradox...
by psyco ini am finishing to read the entire bible (nwt 2013) for my first time (my fault) and i wrote down hundreds, maybe thousands, of questions not clear to me, but one especially came in my mind meditating on god's name.. if i wanted to summarize the entire bible in one phrase i would say (even before the kingdom): god’s name sanctification.. god is jealous about his name.
he does everything for the love of his name, and he wants to be called and prayed using his name.
no doubt about all this (repeated several times in the bible), but it involves the pronunciation of his name.. god left us his name in the form of יהוה which is unpronounceable.
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carla
To start with using a NWT is part of the problem, the jw's have perverted the Bible so much to suit their own doctrines. Maybe you should do a comparison with other versions.
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Double Speak from last night's CLAM
by eyeslice innow that there are no meetings to physically attend, i am in a position where i listen in to my wife's zoom calls.
i thought some of the ideas in last week's clam were a bit strange, for instance they harped on about being 'friendly' to non-jws but not to become 'friends' with them.
the poignant question being put to the audience; 'what is the difference between being friendly to an unbeliever and being his friend?'.
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carla
jw's have such an odd sense of friendship! my jw will talk about his 'friends' and I just bite my tongue from saying, "they are not your friends! if you change your belief system for any reason you have no friends, they will all abandon you".
Real friends love you warts and all. They might think you have some odd ideas and love you all the same.
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Are my options closed? Myself and my 2 sisters molested by fellow 19 y/o Jehovah's witness babysitter
by TjHunt inmyself 5 and my 2 sisters 4 and 6 years old molested by a 19 year old babysitter in 1975 and no police called, just elders meeting at home and brushed under the table.
north cape coral florida.
messed up all 3 of us our whole lives in some way or another.
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carla
Simon is right, contact an attorney and do some research, legal and civil. Here is one article to get you started
https://criminaldefenseattorneytampa.com/sexually-motivated-crimes/statute-of-limitations/
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Art work in the 1933 book riches
by mickbobcat ini picked this book up at a flea market for three bucks.
the art work is great.
i love the satan and .
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carla
I suppose I would be body shaming if I said that Eve is not what I picture when I think of Eve of the Garden of Paradise?
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Russia v. Jehovah's Witnesses
by vienne ininteresting.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgwuu0vj2tm.
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carla
The same freedoms the speakers in the video are talking about are not extended to jw's themselves.
I don't believe the speakers in the video truly have an understanding of the milieu of jw-ism.
I do think their extreme shunning policies are something a govt may want to watch. The destruction of families can have an effect on public policies and resources.
That being said, as much as I dislike the jw's they should be allowed to believe whatever nutty thing they got going today as it will change down the road later anyway. They are not terrorists and not likely to become so.
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'Theocratic Careers' and the Covid Pandemic
by eyeslice inthe watchtower has always banged on about not pursuing worldly careers and that best career was 'theocratic service.
but now i am wondering what line they will take.
let's have look at the options;.
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carla
Eyeslice, lots of lost jobs within dubland! I imagine they will be waxing nostalgic in public and privately jumping for joy.
Welcome Reservations! "As a current PIMO elder.."- my jw says you don't and can't exist, just not possible