I once asked my jw how many clones of you could God make then? he paused and said, "I guess as many as he wanted". He still did not see the point. Went on to say that God wouldn't do that. How do you know that? change the subject.................
Posts by carla
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20"Resurrection" or "Re-Creation of The Soul"? What do really JW's teach?
by EdenOne ininteresting find through a book "inside story of jehovah's witnesses" (1967) by w.c. stevenson, supposedly a former jw circuit overseer.
it's an interesting "apostate" perspective written prior to the wts 1975 debacle.. anyway, at a certain point, there's a quote from a book called "the four cults", by professor anthony a. hoekema (1963, william b. eerdmans publishing company), a calvinist, which makes some sharp remarks about the way jehovah's witnesses teach the dead coming back to life:.
1) in the case of those "resurrecting" for everlasting life on earth, one asks: if the soul is extinct at death, and the body disintegrates and its components are integrated into other forms of life, what is there to "resurrect"?
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Promise Not to Make Appeals for Money
by Sea Breeze in"when he who says: ‘all the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the [watchtower] publication.” consistent with that, there is no begging for money in the literature of jehovah’s witnesses.. what is true of their literature is also true of their meetings.
there are no emotional appeals for funds in their congregations or at their conventions.
" - when he who says: ‘all the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication.” consistent with that, there is no begging for money in the literature of jehovah’s witnesses.. what is true of their literature is also true of their meetings.
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carla
In November don't they usually have a 'leave the wt your estate' sort of article? seems like they had an article every Nov. like that for awhile.
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My JW uncle said a bad word!
by pistolpete inyep, i never heard him use profanity------ever.. a couple of us were invited to lunch, which in my case never happened before covid because i never got baptized.. but now i’m being invited by most of my jw family to family cookouts.
and we never talk about kingdom stuff.
they always ask questions about politics.
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carla
Loved the post!
We all giggle and bite our tongues around here when my jw lets a cuss word fly. Sometimes it is so funny we have to walk away.
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What’s Wrong With President Biden?
by minimus ini just watched excerpts from his cnn town hall event and something is seriously wrong with him.
he can’t put together a sentence without getting lost, tripping on his own words, forgetting what he is talking about.……this is embarrassing.
and it’s not because he has a stutter!
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carla
I think he has dementia, Alzheimer's or some other neurological problem associated with age. If you look back to his speeches when he was young they are like watching two different people. This has nothing to do with what political party one is associated with, he clearly has some sort of health issues.
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WT Teaching On Who The NT was Written For
by Sea Breeze inmaybe someone can help me here:when i got baptized at age 23, an elder dropped a bombshell on me.
he said that the new testament wasn't written for the great crowd (me).
he said that it only applies to the anointed, and "by extension" the nt applies to the great crowd.
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carla
Is this what you are looking for? https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/bible-for-anointed.php
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Does this look like the WT is going to be around a long time? One Watchtower @ One Awake for the public in 2022
by pistolpete ini keep hearing that the watchtower org is going to be around forever because of the many other religions that have been around a long time.
but i disagree because the wt is not like other religious cults.. the watchtower's breath of life is dependent on the last days that started in 1914. .
you can’t change 1914 without a death blow to the entire organization.. the watchtower's 2nd reason for staying alive, is it's continual urging that the life saving preaching work of warning people is the most important work ever.. but- it's very obvious to many, even the old ones that instead of speeding up the work------the work is slowing down to a drip.. comment by former believer; .
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carla
DOC said, "FACT IS, JW'S DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY BELIEVE."- until the gb tells them what to believe which is subject to change at any time. So much for God being the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, if one is a believer.
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Does this look like the WT is going to be around a long time? One Watchtower @ One Awake for the public in 2022
by pistolpete ini keep hearing that the watchtower org is going to be around forever because of the many other religions that have been around a long time.
but i disagree because the wt is not like other religious cults.. the watchtower's breath of life is dependent on the last days that started in 1914. .
you can’t change 1914 without a death blow to the entire organization.. the watchtower's 2nd reason for staying alive, is it's continual urging that the life saving preaching work of warning people is the most important work ever.. but- it's very obvious to many, even the old ones that instead of speeding up the work------the work is slowing down to a drip.. comment by former believer; .
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carla
I think the jw's are listed as a cult in a number of books I have read in the past. These were books by cult experts not just Christians, though they could have been. They were college educated, theology, brainwashing, psychology
etc...
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2021-July-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!
by Atlantis in2021-july-s-147-announcements and reminders.
english and german.
https://www.filemail.com/d/rscphytdmrtfyau.
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carla
1 Awake and 1 wt for a whole year? how many did they used to print? was it 1 wt per month and 2 awakes?
At least this goes into 2022 so the end isn't quite here is it? if they forget their go bag on the way to the store they can relax a bit.
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"Not Bringing Reproach on Jehovah's Name" is a Non-Sensical Excuse for Shunning
by truth_b_known infor whatever reason i was thinking on the topic of jehovah's witnesses' practice of disfellowshipping its members based on the concept of preventing "bringing reproach on jehovah's name".
follow me if you will -.
over 20 years ago a friend of mine did something rather crazy; he committed a major crime.
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carla
How jw's decide if one is a jw or not is almost irrelevant in the outside world. So often if there is a news story or some local scandal involving a jw or even someone who just goes to a kh on a regular basis the jw in good standing will say, 'he/she isn't a real jw anyway'. News to jw's everywhere, if a person goes to a kh even on a semi regular basis without being baptized, people on the outside consider them a jw.
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If you could pick out critical errors to the JWS religion what would it be ?
by Rocketman123 inmany that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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carla
There are too many things to choose from!
You can't even have a discussion with a jw from a religious point of view if you can't first establish who Jesus was/is. My jw says Jesus could have been anybody (as a real live person, forget the Michael thing for a moment) just a human perspective. Most Christians do not believe this to be true from my experience.
Then there is 'sin'. My jw says he is not an intentional sinner being a jw. I guess the rest of us poor slobs are 'intentional sinners' whatever that means. To most Christians I know, we all are sinners, we all fall short.
I won't even touch on the notion of love as jw's cannot wrap their head around that one.
Praying for others? not in dubland, in Christianity? yes, pray for your enemies (and those you love)