Sorry it already has been covered, guess I didn't use correct key words.
Justice sure moves slowly doesn't it?
Posts by carla
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7Has this been posted? Crystal Lake, IL ...elders not reporting case
by carla ini searched but could not find it, i apologize if it has already been covered.
https://patch.com/illinois/crystallake/trial-starts-church-elders-accused-not-reporting-sex-abuse.
and here too- https://www.shawlocal.com/northwest-herald/news/crime-and-courts/2022/03/03/trial-for-jehovahs-witnesses-elders-underway-without-decision-from-judge-on-what-hell-consider-in-evidence/.
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Has this been posted? Crystal Lake, IL ...elders not reporting case
by carla ini searched but could not find it, i apologize if it has already been covered.
https://patch.com/illinois/crystallake/trial-starts-church-elders-accused-not-reporting-sex-abuse.
and here too- https://www.shawlocal.com/northwest-herald/news/crime-and-courts/2022/03/03/trial-for-jehovahs-witnesses-elders-underway-without-decision-from-judge-on-what-hell-consider-in-evidence/.
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carla
I searched but could not find it, I apologize if it has already been covered. https://patch.com/illinois/crystallake/trial-starts-church-elders-accused-not-reporting-sex-abuse
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Where are the Jehovah's Witnesses in Afghanistan?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inreligion in afghanistan.
blue mosque in mazar-i-sharif is the largest mosque in afghanistan.
an estimated 99.7% of the afghan population ( 40,218,234 ) is muslim and most are thought to adhere to the sunni hanafi school.
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carla
It was my understanding that jw's never go anywhere that traditional Christians have not already been. Would that be correct? I don't think they do Muslim countries at all do they?
(not saying Christian missionaries have not been in Afghanistan but the thought of getting your head lopped off for apostasy would make one think twice before doing so).
How about the Congo? or deep Amazon forest? Tibet? I would imagine there are many places that have never heard of jw's. Heck, people in the States don't even know what they believe including many jw's!
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World War 3
by Reservations ini’m calling it folks, world war 3 looks like it’s a done deal.. belarus has entered ukraine, and nato is involved heavily, just not “boots on the ground”.. will there be a nuclear exchange?
i would have said no 5 days ago, now i’m not so sure.. how will this effect wt?
probably more of the same fear mongering..
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carla
"How will this effect WT? Probably more of the same fear mongering."- yes and every jw will be in good mood gleefully talking about war, pestilence, etc.... they live for times like these. Pandemics, war, 'persecuting' jw's around the globe, courts taking action against their pedo cover ups.... they are all probably flying pretty high right about now. Downright giddy with excitement I suspect.
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Penpals
by Jer8226 inmy ex-husband is in prison for ..well a while longer and has recently became very interested in the study of jehovah.
(forgive me if i say anything incorrect- i am not religious in any way but do respect all choices!
) he is looking for some penpals to help make the time go by faster and to really learn more about the religion so he can make a difference in his community once he gets out.
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carla
If he is already only speaking about jehovah then someone has already gotten to him in prison and he is probably on his way to becoming one. Keep your kids far away from kingdom halls (that is what jw's call their 'churches') and anything to do with jw's.
see https://jwfacts.com/ for more information on this insidious cult.
I wish you and your children all the best going forward in what must be a hellish situation.
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Penpals
by Jer8226 inmy ex-husband is in prison for ..well a while longer and has recently became very interested in the study of jehovah.
(forgive me if i say anything incorrect- i am not religious in any way but do respect all choices!
) he is looking for some penpals to help make the time go by faster and to really learn more about the religion so he can make a difference in his community once he gets out.
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carla
They also have a history of protecting pedophiles.
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Did you ever have an “Olaf” moment.
by Slidin Fast indid your class mates queue up to have sex with you?
it happened to olaf according to today’s wt.
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carla
I would suggest it would already be too late for poor Olaf who's teenage hormones still rage even if he resists physically. I am sure he lusted after the hot girls like most young teen boys do.
jw's seem to ignore Matt 5:28- New International Version
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.I have had this discussion with my jw and he says, "you mean to say that just thinking a thing makes me guilty?" me- "yes" my jw says I have too high of standards! ha, imagine a jw telling someone that?! I laughed but he didn't get it.
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Are Jehovahs Witnesses a cult?
by GoverningBody inthis question has been presented many times throughout the years.
somewhat recently, there has been much talk surrounding the "bite method" :.
"bite” stands for behavior, information, thought, and emotional control.. some examples were thrown at me, such as the decisions of who we associate with, discouraging any worldy media, encouraging our brothers and sisters to report any of our misbehaviours to the elders, our rejection of criticism on the truth, shunning etc.. what do we think about this?.
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carla
Here's the short version of above post-
They are like body snatchers, yes it's a cult.
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Are Jehovahs Witnesses a cult?
by GoverningBody inthis question has been presented many times throughout the years.
somewhat recently, there has been much talk surrounding the "bite method" :.
"bite” stands for behavior, information, thought, and emotional control.. some examples were thrown at me, such as the decisions of who we associate with, discouraging any worldy media, encouraging our brothers and sisters to report any of our misbehaviours to the elders, our rejection of criticism on the truth, shunning etc.. what do we think about this?.
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carla
Watching my jw become one was scary as hell. He took on different facial expressions, (I believe they mimicked whoever he was studying with at the time as well as elders) body gestures and yes, his eyes literally glazed over when first parroting the jw company line (others saw this as well). He became a different person and I was hard pressed to get his authentic self to come out for quite awhile. His change in personality, beliefs, behavior, everything was profound and not in a good way. I was not the only one to see these changes, everybody noticed something was not right. I was asked often, "is he mad about something?" "what's wrong with him?" and so on. I never wanted to say, "yeah, he just recently joined a cult and this is the result, welcome to my world".
I studied nearly every cult expert out there going back to when our military came back from Korea to current day thoughts. I studied religion, bible and jw theology throughout its history. I spoke with a few cult experts. I have no problem saying without a single doubt that the jw's are a cult and are a danger to ones very being. Be it the sexual abuses, domestic abuses (which I have never suffered either), spiritual abuse, lack of blood, shunning, isolation, flip flops, lack of education, rules and regulations and the list goes on and on.
Over the years he has lost the facial/body expressions and is more himself these days. It is my understanding that being in a cult (or any high control group) quite literally changes the brain. My jw is a good man and means well but is so misguided by the carrot the wt holds. I still miss the man I first married sometimes but still love him all the same and know it will never be the same as it once was. Life is bound to change. We have found a dance of sorts that allow us to continue on our journey together in love. We no longer discuss anything jw related or very very rarely, what's the point? He must come to his own conclusions, and now? I think even if he found out it was all hooey he would stay in because otherwise he would have to admit he wasted all those years and lose his conditional friends.
I do not believe every religion is a cult. Reason being in most churches you are allowed to disagree with many things and you are not judged as being evil, apostate and so forth. That being said, most will say that something is not a 'salvation issue' if you disagree. However, you probably wouldn't do well say if you went to a bible study group and said there was no God and no Jesus, those would be salvation issues in the minds of adherents. If you are allowed freedom of thought, able to scrutinize, dress as you wish, read & watch what you wish (within reason, obviously if you are watching child porn you would and should be judged and jailed) basic human freedoms is what I am talking about. If you can leave and retain friendships, employment and family it is probably not a cult.
Are the jw's a cult? yes, absolutely.
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Are Jehovahs Witnesses a cult?
by GoverningBody inthis question has been presented many times throughout the years.
somewhat recently, there has been much talk surrounding the "bite method" :.
"bite” stands for behavior, information, thought, and emotional control.. some examples were thrown at me, such as the decisions of who we associate with, discouraging any worldy media, encouraging our brothers and sisters to report any of our misbehaviours to the elders, our rejection of criticism on the truth, shunning etc.. what do we think about this?.
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carla
"...I recall they state that a cult has one leader, and that proves they aren't one, end of story..." - Yes, this is what my jw has consistently said. However a group of men can act as 'one' so their explanation doesn't really hold.
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.
If you are in a group where there is no graceful way to leave and you will be treated badly and/or shunned for leaving the group you are most likely in a cult.
To leave a mainstream church is no problem. Most people understand that people change, their spiritual needs change. You don't usually have the same teacher in school your whole life as that one teacher probably could not serve you well in all your years and all subjects. Why would your spiritual needs be any different? Most churches would be sad to see you go but members would still greet you fondly in the store or on the street. They might ask if you are enjoying your new worship service but it would be as a genuine question not a way to shame you back. If they asked such a personal question to begin with.