illinois now requires all elders as mandatory reporters to undergo state approved training every three years to ensure they fully understand their roles as mandated reporters.
this will include a pre training assessment, 60 - 90 mins of self paced, interactive training with a final assessment to ensure reporters understand their responsibilities.
following the course, mandated reporters must make a declaration that they understand their status as a reporter and will fully comply with mandatory requirements.
I don't understand why they focus on IL and not all states. I have a therapist friend who says all states have a mandatory reporting obligation.
Here is a link and you can go to your state to see what or who is required to report. I typed in a few states and they all had the following- https://mandatedreporter.com/blog/how-many-states-have-mandated-reporting-laws/
so, we had this meeting with 3 elders ( larry, moe and curly) my uncle who is the lawyer sat in the room and stayed quiet, and fact for 40 minutes we let them talk.
we would just sit there.
they went into along winded monolog about how the world is in bad shape and getting worst.
I once showed my jw that Jesus was not his mediator and he still wouldn't believe it. Not sure he quite understands it today.
grace gough (“mouthy’) sent me 83 cassette tapes 16 years ago (2006).. .
when she sent them, i understood them to be ‘testimonies’ of jws who became christians.
there are some labeled “so-and-so’s testimony” so at least some are that.. others appear to be talks, like the morning session of the 1981 “ex –jws for jesus” convention.
She is sent me a bunch too, I sent them on to a ministry.
i want to impart some advice from my life experience that i hope will help others in a similar situation and prevent them from making the same mistakes i did, ruining my life.
to begin with, i’m a 52-year-old single woman, i’ve been a devout jw since i was a little girl.
i had an abusive dad who left my mom, my two sisters and me when we were fairly young.
You were having an emotional affair and you regret not breaking up his family for your own pleasure? you regret not having his kids grow up with a dad in their house and loving their mother? you have lived 25 years in a fantasy of your own making and continue to fantasize about what could have been?
Simply because you two didn't actually have sex doesn't mean that your relationship wasn't completely inappropriate in normal circumstances much less for a jw.
I would be of the opinion that you need therapy to live out what days you have left in joy and learn how to let go of this fantasy you have in your head. Pining away for years and years for what may or may not have been reality is not healthy. You also need help to navigate the whole jw thing as well and learn how to leave it behind as well. It is a toxic cult. Please find a counselor to help you through this.
so was a virgin when i got married but my wife studied later in life and had been married for 6 months and had two boyfriends in her past.
my strict witness mother hated my wife and thought she was not good enough for me.
she thought all worldly women were dirty whores who cannot keep their vaginas to themselves.
" I remember sitting in a Kingdom Hall when the circuit overseer was lecturing against oral sex and the feeling of tension in the audience ..." - I can't even wrap my head around this! You are sitting in a church type setting and some creep is discussing oral sex in front of everybody?! in front of kids and grandma's, men and women, teens, aaahgh, my head would explode! if someone started discussing that in front of my small children.... I would be in jail for beating the crap out of them.
How can people just sit through this?
it's been years since i posted here.
my jw mother died july 5th.
it was quite honestly not that emotional for me.
Hello Noni, I don't know quite what to say about your mom. I do send my condolences and also so very sorry that this damn cult has brought so many to the same feelings you have now at what should be a time of grief. If it hits you one day anyway, I send my wishes for you to find peace.
Slim, what about-
Romans 13:1-2
Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
1 Peter 2:13
Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority,
Also, considering jw's think of the rest of the world and in particular leaders, kings, etc... as controlled by satan then they would be their 'enemy' correct? Doesn't Jesus tell people to pray for their 'enemies'. When jw's refuse to pray for leaders, kings, etc... as well as for apostates then clearly they are going against Jesus Himself, no?
it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.
going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.
but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!
As a non jw I just have to say if my jw spent the night with someone it sure would be divorce court (if he lived that long, just kidding). On the other hand, the elders told my jw that he would be justified to separate from me & kids because I was an 'opposer'. That would be putting it mildly, I was an an outright lunatic about the whole damn mess and 'apostate' clearly did not cover my feelings, beliefs or intentions towards jw's as a whole.
In the end so to speak, there is enough of his authentic self and our much longer love than than the jw cult can take away. I imagine someday when we are both losing our marbles he will still remember me to some degree and can only hope he will forget jw's altogether like some stories I hear about here and other ex jw boards.
I remember some story of an older person who got dementia or Alzheimer's and forgot they were ever a jw and started going to the church service (mainstream non jw) at the nursing home and the child of said person wanted to know if they should be disfellowshiped for doing so. Can you imagine?! wanting your mom to be df-d because she lost her marbles and reverted back to her pre jw days in old age? Luckily the elders decided nothing should be done.
examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.
know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
- 2 cor.
"Christianity is not behavior modification. It is not about trying harder, running faster, or jumping through hoops. Jesus does it all for the believer.... from the inside."-
examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.
know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
- 2 cor.
I live with a jw, I know full well they are NOT Christians. I am well acquainted with their current doctrines, flip flops, flashing light (new & old light and back again) and ungodly history of this insidious cult. Not to mention their pedophile cover up and everything else they sweep under the carpet so they can appear to be 'clean' when in reality they are nothing but white washed tombs.
