NEW LIGHTS regarding d/f'd JW's!

by BoogerMan in

jw's can now talk to disfellowshipped friends & relatives, in order to encourage them back to the k.h.

and to welcome any d/f'd ones who turn up at the k.h.. https://www.jw.borg/download/?docid=1112024005&langwritten=asl.

remove the b in the borg.

carla

are they also dropping the dress code and pants for the ladies? (saw something on the other ex jw site)

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Article: Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses in Brazil Fight Against Social Ostracism and Seek Dialogue

by AndersonsInfo in

https://bnnbreaking.com/world/brazil/ex-jehovahs-witnesses-in-brazil-fight-against-social-.

february 28, 2024. discover the stories of jefferson alexandrino de lima and fabiano de amo, who challenge the practice of shunning in religious communities.

their experiences shed light on the need for dialogue, respect, and inclusivity.

JWs in Norway lost to the state - will not get state support back

by BelisemDeBelimakom in

translated with google translate:.

the trial went before oslo district court in january, and now the district court has concluded that the state is acquitted.

jehovah's witnesses are also ordered to pay court costs of just over nok 1.1 million.. https://www-vg-no.translate.goog/nyheter/innenriks/i/2bljxg/staten-frikjennes-etter-aa-ha-blitt-saksoekt-av-jehovas-vitner-melder-dagen?_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp.

carla

Here is an article in English-

https://www.newsinenglish.no/2024/03/04/state-wins-over-jehovas-witness-complaint/

State wins over Jehovas Witness’ complaint

March 4, 2024

Norway’s Jehovas Witnesses have lost their legal effort to regain the state financial support that’s offered to all religious organizations. Their’s was cut after the state determined that the Jehovas Witnesses don’t comply with rules that members must freely be allowed to join them or leave.

The Jehovas Witnesses sued in an attempt to regain the millions of kroner they’d received from Norwegian taxpayers based on membership numbers. The state had determined that those leaving the Jehovas Witnesses suffered from strict bans on contact with other members, including their own families. The alleged exclusion policies violated state criteria for funding, and Jehovas Witnesses also eventually lost their recognition as a registered religious organization in Norway.

Newspaper Dagen reported on Monday that the Oslo County Court ruled in favour of the state, claiming it was within the state’s rights to withhold funding and retract the Jehovas Witnesses’ rights, for example, to legally marry people in Norway. Religious movements that threaten or engage in negative social control of their members are not in line with relatively new state rules regarding eligibility for funding.

NewsinEnglish.no staff

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Bible study

by GregT in

i used to attend the meetings and was baptized about 30 years ago but i haven't gone to the meetings or associated with any one i new from the congregation for around 15 - 20 years.

i want to get back to studying but i am not ready to go to any meetings.

other than the watchtower and awake what book is used these days for people just starting to study with jehovah's witnesses?.

carla

look for one by Ray Franz-

Crisis of Conscience

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Dates and times

by jhine in

last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

we have been working through the whole letter.

verses 1-11 start with .

carla

Jan, check this out it may help you to understand and a refresher course for those who might have forgotten.

https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/1975.php

1975 Watchtower Quotes

The idea that 1975 would culminate in the end of the world was introduced in 1966.

"The published timetable resulting from this independent study gives the date of man's creation as 4026 B.C.E. According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E. So six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation. So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man's existence. How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants! This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God's part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ. It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the 'Lord of the Sabbath,' to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man's existence." Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God 1966 pp.26-30

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Dates and times

by jhine in

last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

we have been working through the whole letter.

verses 1-11 start with .

carla

Also Matthew 24:44 - New International Version

So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

Years ago I asked my jw- if the jw's are always expecting the end to come, are they actually stalling the end because they are expecting it all the time? If one believes the Bible then it must come only when it is least expected, right?

He said he would get back to me on that. I think that was about 20 years ago and apparently they have no answer or maybe the answer keeps changing so much he can't keep up either?

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Is there a 'for dummies' on Robert Hendriks thread?

by carla in

can anyone give me a rundown or send me to a thread on the robert hendriks thing?

he was recently 'dismissed' from bethel and was pid (public information department?

) i'm not even sure i have this right..... thanks much.

carla

Can anyone give me a rundown or send me to a thread on the Robert Hendriks thing? He was recently 'dismissed' from Bethel and was PID (public information department?) I'm not even sure I have this right..... thanks much.

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The Reason Behind Recent Watchtower Changes

by Vanderhoven7 in

eric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.

carla

thanks for posting this

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JW Chrisians in name only-what do you think

by enoughisenough in

jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.

i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.

he made a pretty good case.

carla

"Carla, you don't understand what JWs believe about Jesus." - I guess neither do you and neither do any current jw's until they check their televangelists, err, I mean website to see what they believe today, at this moment in time considering jw's can change doctrine and beliefs at the drop of hat.

TxNVSue2023,

Why you may not be taken seriously may be due the fact that if you truly 'studied' the Bible with jw's you would not be on this board as all jw's know they are not supposed to be hanging out with apostates as many here are. Furthermore, everyone here knows jw's do not and have never studied the Bible, they study jw literature/videos/tv written/produced my men.

There is much unity between different denominations where I live. Many churches come together to feed the poor, clothes for those in need, fellowship meals and prayer, helping and combining efforts during natural catastrophes, helping families in the community who have suffered some sort of horrible catastrophe and the list could go on. Even friendly baseball games and other entertainment. Where are the jw's in all of the above? cruising obituary columns and graveyards in attempt to indoctrinate the vulnerable.

Serious sin? like what? a beard? oh wait that was only a sin a few months ago it no longer is.

Rock music? oh my tut, tut. I know my God wouldn't have a problem with any type of music that the person/persons is using to worship God. I even know someone who likes rap Christian music! I didn't even know it was a thing, not my cup of tea but they like it .

So you can forgive us for not taking you very seriously as you are woefully ignorant of all things jw.

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My parents did not really shun me when I left but I am now breaking their hearts…

by sinboi in

if they have shunned me and chase me out of the house when i leave the cult, i would not give a damn.

i can still feel their love and concern for me even now.. though i have moved out voluntarily when i joined the army, i am afraid that the life i am living now will break their hearts.

i am now a bartender in a bar and am cohabiting with a woman.

carla

You do NOT deserve to be shunned especially by 2 people who are supposed to show natural affection and unconditional love to their child.

You have not broken their hearts; you are living your life; as it should be. Children are supposed to fly and leave the nest and do their OWN life even if mom & dad might disagree. I am sure they must do things that you don't agree with.

Honoring your parents does not mean you must listen to them as if you are child the rest of your life.

You went through boot camp and don't have the balls to tell them about your life? how is that possible? do you love the girl? doesn't she deserve to be acknowledged by mom & dad for good or bad? what about if you ever have kids? My advice would be that you are package deal and they don't get to play with kids unless they honor your new family (be it you & girl or you, girl & kids) and abide by your rules regarding your family.

I say this as a former military mom with great affection to you and thank you for your service.

Parents will always worry. I am glad you can feel their love and concern but do not confuse that with the maturity that you should have by now.

(I forget if the Army calls it 'bootcamp' my apologies if it is something else, I'm a Marine mom)

carla

Posts by carla

State wins over Jehovas Witness’ complaint

look for one by Ray Franz-

Crisis of Conscience

1975 Watchtower Quotes