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  Current blood card?

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have a question regarding the current blood card- did the blood card always have a spot where the jw gives the elders the authority to pull the plug (so to speak) and to admit them to a long term facility?

  as well as no blood, naturally.

  if the elders have no financial responsibility how is this possible?

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  carla

  Is this error something got hacked or what? (looks like a wt that says- Jesus. God. No. No page can exist without jehovah)

  DPA-E Bi Advance Decision to Refuse Specified Medical Treatment (New 2016 version)
  
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  Current blood card?

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have a question regarding the current blood card- did the blood card always have a spot where the jw gives the elders the authority to pull the plug (so to speak) and to admit them to a long term facility?

  as well as no blood, naturally.

  if the elders have no financial responsibility how is this possible?

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  carla

  Thanks so much Grandpa & Thomas!
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  Current blood card?

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have a question regarding the current blood card- did the blood card always have a spot where the jw gives the elders the authority to pull the plug (so to speak) and to admit them to a long term facility?

  as well as no blood, naturally.

  if the elders have no financial responsibility how is this possible?

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  carla

  I have a question regarding the current blood card- Did the blood card always have a spot where the jw gives the elders the authority to pull the plug (so to speak) and to admit them to a long term facility? as well as no blood, naturally.

  If the elders have no financial responsibility how is this possible? The elders could make the spouse end up responsible for all medical care even if the jw had changed their mind or outright lied to the spouse about all of it as jw's are prone to do.

  Have there been legal battles between adult patient families and jw elders?

  Also, I did not notice the spot for allowing fractions or which ones, etc... is that still on current blood cards?

  As a ubm this makes me sick to my stomach to think at the point of death me & my family will have to deal with jw's yet again.
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  A fun moment

  by Vidiot in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife of many years is more-or-less pomo, but she still (nominally) believes in jehovah and the bible.. she raised her eyebrows when she realized the full scope of the csa problem… rolled her eyes when letto the clown called babies “little enemies of god”… but today, we apparently crossed a real threshold….

  …her response to the governing body being referred to as “our future kings” was….

  …“what????!!!!!”.

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  carla

  Forgot to ask, how many 'Kings' can their be? they can't all be the 'King'. Maybe they have to go back to just being mere 'Princes'?
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  A fun moment

  by Vidiot in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife of many years is more-or-less pomo, but she still (nominally) believes in jehovah and the bible.. she raised her eyebrows when she realized the full scope of the csa problem… rolled her eyes when letto the clown called babies “little enemies of god”… but today, we apparently crossed a real threshold….

  …her response to the governing body being referred to as “our future kings” was….

  …“what????!!!!!”.

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  carla

  Don't they consider Jesus their King? now the gb are on equal footing? is that about right?
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  Q about Jesus' sacrifice

  by oncebitten in

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  i have several jw family members.

  i have been shunned many years now.

  i was not baptized, but i was indoctrinated as a child.

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  carla

  It has been my experience that jw' s have no concept of salvation in the traditional Christen viewpoint.

  It has also been my experience that a jw will not discuss or entertain the mere concept of 'salvation'.. And in no way willl they accept any 'salvation' through or because of Jesus Christ.. In fact, my jw will prefer to run away than to have this conversation, go hide in bathroom, need to answer phone, need to answer neighbor he neglected for months on end , etc......I think he would prefer a tornado than do have an actual discussion.

  And, for goodness sakes, never, ever, find youtubes or museum, college, academic, etc... that might negate their beliefs.
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  Pastafarianism Vs JWs

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a new religion called pastafarianism.. official doctrine is all about a flying spaghetti monster.

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  obviously nobody actually believes any of it in their heart but they stay physically in the religious group.. i wonder if jws will become like this and people choosing to stay in when they don’t believe it..

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  carla

  Have you used the search bar? https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/search/?q=flying+spaghetti+monster
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  Children dumped at ministry group

  by Mikejw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents.

  the parents just expect others to look after them.. we have this happening at our group all the time.

  early teens and even younger.. the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.. there should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.. who is supposed to look after them?.

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  carla

  Do these people who accept stranger children (or known) in their car have the following information?

  Parents names, phone #'s, address, where they will be during time in vehicle, who to call in case of emergency/accident, who to call if parents can't be reached, known allergies, mental health at current moment (will kid flip out at something?), behavior issues, bathroom? needs help? what if? allergies, etc....

  Does your current car insurance cover you using your car basically as a bus/taxi? do you realize if you had a catastrophic accident that you WILL be sued regardless of the jw- "we don't sue our brothers". It is the insurance companies that sue to recover medical bills, etc.... If you haven't notified insurance company of use of vehicle will you be personally liable?

  If the parents aren't around when it is time to drop them off, what are you supposed to do with child? was this agreed upon by all adults?

  why do jw not see beyond their own nose? this is common sense stuff and things normal people do in girl/boy scouts, afterschool activities and so forth.
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  Children dumped at ministry group

  by Mikejw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents.

  the parents just expect others to look after them.. we have this happening at our group all the time.

  early teens and even younger.. the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.. there should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.. who is supposed to look after them?.

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  carla

  Why are these adults setting themselves up for possible accusations of sexual abuse? Anyone with half a brain would not take a child they barely know in a vehicle traipsing around the country or city.
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  Disaster preparedness

  by ElderBerry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.

  also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.

  please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.

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  carla

  I wasn't suggesting that a go bag in general was a bad idea, just that my jw was a bit nuts about his and what it contained was ridiculous in real life situations. Furthermore, why would I trust anything coming from the gb or its entities. ( I don't know where he got his 'go bag")

  In the US we are coming upon tornado season, it is a good idea to keep provisions on hand and if necessary put documents in dish washer as that seems to hold up to tornadoes. Go to your basements as needed and do not do as we do in the Midwest and go out on the porch to watch the storm. Don't give me grief about it, it's a thing we do, go watch the storm, and run to basement as needed. Yeah, we also grill out in snow storms. We are a hardy (maybe dumb) lot. Go Pack Go.