Don't feel too discouraged Mouthy. MJ's oldest kids are 12 and 11, and any sudden JW indoctrination would probably fail miserably. They've already gone through the 'informative' years in a different environment (although I do appreciate that being recently bereaved they are vulnerable BUT they do have each other).
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I feel so discouraged
by mouthy inthat micheal jacksons kids are being raise in the wt.
how very,very sad.
i am so upset about that..
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Scottish Assembly article
by Freedom Fighter inhi folks.
some info regarding the above.
a few interesting points, particularly about the 'spend'.
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MidwichCuckoo
I'd be interested to know the ages of the 50 baptised...and how many were there with their parents, lol
An estimated 8,000-plus people will attend each day, injecting more than £1 million into the local economy.
Hotels, bed and breakfast establishments, restaurants and shops will all benefit from the economic spin-off
Interesting.
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SHOULD JWS PLAY FOOTBALL?
by badboy ini understand that it originated as an aztec war game,therefore should jws play football?.
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I UNDERSTAND THAT IT ORIGINATED AS AN AZTEC WAR GAME
Actually, I wasn't aware of that - but didn't the WT object to chess on similar 'thinking'?
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SHOULD JWS PLAY FOOTBALL?
by badboy ini understand that it originated as an aztec war game,therefore should jws play football?.
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It depends on the current WT thinking on 'competitive sports'...or maybe considering football (I'm assuming you're referring to soccer here Badboy...us being Brits an all, lol) as a future career (I'm thinking David Beckham here, lol). I don't think anything more than schoolboy soccer would be encouraged.
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Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions regarding "attention seekers"?
by BonaFide inwe all love it when people pay attention to us or our opinions.
but what i am talking about is people who crave and force attention from others.
not just people who talk a lot, but those that force everyone around them to focus on them and them only.. in one of my classes there is a woman who raises her hand to ask a question, but never really has a question to ask.
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I have look at a few sites, yes set Jw sites are closed to only Jw's
Yep - because JWs are forbidden to think independently of the WT. Even forbidden to read the Bible alone.
Even it's official name invites the perception that witnesses will be on it to talk to and get a witness pespective.
Yep, and any JW stumbling upon this site realising the opinions of the majority, would simply click out and promptly forget it.
I'll be honest most pro-witnesses are put off by this site simply because you have to deal with constant personal attacks outside of your viewpoints.
Really? Pro-witnesses are PUT OFF because they don't want to hear any opinion about the WT that differs from their own. I think you're TOTALLY missing every point nearly EVERY poster has made. The majority of people here were JWs - many since before you were even a twinkle in your father's eye...and you totally disrespect them. IF you believe that you can 'save lurkers' then you must be very afraid that the TRUTH about the WT can be found on this forum.
People like Mary, isaac and outlaw add very little to debates other than to character assasinate me, is that good for these forums? Am I to blame because they want to keep drawing personal attention to me just because I do not agree with them?
My opinion - you are going way tooooo far. I suspect you've never actually READ any of Mary's threads (maybe you're only interested in seeing your own words on a post?), but she has a gift for writing (Mary, I've never told you, but you've made me smile - and educated me - sooo many times - I did request a copy of your 'book' but...) - perhaps you're jealous of her gift or popularity? The same as the other day, offending Mouthy (and not for the first time)...does it grieve you that she is loved and respected? Just wondering...
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Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions regarding "attention seekers"?
by BonaFide inwe all love it when people pay attention to us or our opinions.
but what i am talking about is people who crave and force attention from others.
not just people who talk a lot, but those that force everyone around them to focus on them and them only.. in one of my classes there is a woman who raises her hand to ask a question, but never really has a question to ask.
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Simon could easily ban me from this site, but he doesn't why?
Because he wants this forum to air both sides.
I don't think that's the case. He probably (like the rest of us) can see what a great advert you are for the WT, lol. Also, unlike a Pro-JW site, Simon doesn't ban for having differing opinions (Pro JW sites only accept members who promote WT propoganda, not posters who practice 'independent thinking') - I imagine if you DO get your account deleted it would be for offending well respected posters. Then you can play victim and convince yourself it's because everyone hates JWs, just as the WT says.
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Debunking the WTS view of apostasy
by Awakened at Gilead injust created a new video that uses the bible to show how jw's claims about apostates lack biblical basis.. your comments are welcome.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eg219nkire.
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Eeeek - so anyone who worships God, but is NOT a JW, can also be classed as apostate...?
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Jehovah's Witnesses invite ''all'' to attend summer convention........65 miles away
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhile i was working outside on a customer's house,a witness handed me a tract inviting me to this summer's assembly.
he handed me the invite,told me what a nice job i was doing and left.. i read that the summer convention was about 65 miles from where i live.
when i was a witness driving 65 miles would of been no problem.
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I don't suppose they expect non-believers to travel 5 miles, let alone over 60. I think that as they've handed out the invite, their conscience is good as the onus is now on the non-believer.
I don't think assemblies are 'advertised' to the public in England ...a tad off topic - churches here have notices outside their establishments advertising the forthcoming Sunday service. So do the Christadelphians, who also run an advert in the local paper. Yet there isn't a notice outside my local Kingdom Hall advertising the ''PUBLIC talk''
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sistas work at bethel and quckbuilds yet cant carry mics or do lit. counter??
by oompa ini know paul said they were to be totally silent at meetings and jw's found a way to throw out the idea.....but where do all these weird rules for the ladies actually come from.....most are not in print but they are just an accepted idea?
all elders just seem to know it and do sisters ever ask to do something only the guys do?.
they can clean toilets, but not carry a clean mic?......nice.......they can pull weeds all day in the kh flower bed, but cant hand out territories or literature?.....but they can work full time at bethel in even special fields like law and medical field........and do all kinds of major work at quickbuilds and assembly halls........ also......tongues of fire hit the sistas in the upper room filled with 120.....they could speak in tongues, heal, and even prophesy!!
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That's correct Blondie, she was 'asking a blessing' (pre meal), and used a paper napkin from table.
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sistas work at bethel and quckbuilds yet cant carry mics or do lit. counter??
by oompa ini know paul said they were to be totally silent at meetings and jw's found a way to throw out the idea.....but where do all these weird rules for the ladies actually come from.....most are not in print but they are just an accepted idea?
all elders just seem to know it and do sisters ever ask to do something only the guys do?.
they can clean toilets, but not carry a clean mic?......nice.......they can pull weeds all day in the kh flower bed, but cant hand out territories or literature?.....but they can work full time at bethel in even special fields like law and medical field........and do all kinds of major work at quickbuilds and assembly halls........ also......tongues of fire hit the sistas in the upper room filled with 120.....they could speak in tongues, heal, and even prophesy!!
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The 'sister' who covered her head was doing the pre-lunch prayer at our dining table at the assembly (it was a large room with individual tables, each seating about six people as I recall). I was a teenager at the time.