White Dove - My baptism was for status and nothing more.
Yes White Dove - that and shifting responsibility.
MidwichCuckoo
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Invalid Baptism
by dssynergy innew to the board, first post.
just curious if anyone has ever tried to leave because of an invalid baptism.
if a person felt their baptism was invalid because they did it under pressure, and did not really devote themselves to jehovah, and would not now be baptized if given the chance ~ would they still be disfellowshipped or disassociated??
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Invalid Baptism
by dssynergy innew to the board, first post.
just curious if anyone has ever tried to leave because of an invalid baptism.
if a person felt their baptism was invalid because they did it under pressure, and did not really devote themselves to jehovah, and would not now be baptized if given the chance ~ would they still be disfellowshipped or disassociated??
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MidwichCuckoo
ooops, duplicate posting:)
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Invalid Baptism
by dssynergy innew to the board, first post.
just curious if anyone has ever tried to leave because of an invalid baptism.
if a person felt their baptism was invalid because they did it under pressure, and did not really devote themselves to jehovah, and would not now be baptized if given the chance ~ would they still be disfellowshipped or disassociated??
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MidwichCuckoo
Welcome dssynergy I think you'll find TOO MANY Baptisms were under pressure (emotional blackmail even)! Were you a teen? I was a young teen...and Jesus was 30.
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The homeless sister and the $60,000 RV
by HappyGuy ini was in a congregation once which had a large number of desperately poor people in it.
there was an elderly sister, she lived near me, a sweet woman, who became homeless because her ramshackled old house caught fire.
around that same time one of the overseers (imagine that using a slavery term), i forget if it was district or circuit overseer, came to town wanting a new rv/truck combo.
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MidwichCuckoo
If you're a widow or orphan you stand no chance in the WT Cult...not viable. I see it NOW - elderly (JW) widows relying on 'Worldly' people while the Congregation turns a blind eye. Good for you HappyGuy.
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Water on the moon? Gee, I wonder why God created that...
by hotchocolate inhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-tc-nw-moon-water-1113-1114nov14,0,1039358.story.
how do you think the witnesses will explain this one..... x.
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MidwichCuckoo
Water on the moon? Gee, I wonder why God created that...
It's obvious to me, lol...and WHY now? Has it always been there (probably not, as surely we'd have spotted it earlier)? Water being necessay to sustain life, then surely this is a sign that the end is close and God is preparing an overflow for all the soon to be resurrected. Far fetched..? Yep. Would dubs buy it? I think so.
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Why do they just clutch at straws?
by creativhoney inmy ex husband has been spending a lot of time in my company, and i always use the opportunity to throw another quandary his way.
- when i start, he usually puts his hands to his face and says ohhhh not this again.
- i say why are you so afraid, im only asking you a question or offering a fact.. when he does listen to an argument i offer, most of the responses are just clutching at straws.
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MidwichCuckoo
JWs are strangers to logic - or they wouldn't be JWs. They repeat the same crap that has been bombarded into their collective mind over the years...the examples you give, I (and no doubt everyone else) have already heard. I was once told by a JW that tobacco is mentioned in the Bible as WORMWOOD (yep, I think some do make up stuff to try and justify the bOrg's teachings)
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Hi, Im newly out
by carpediem innice to be here and look forward to meeting you all.
i made a very sudden exit from 'the lie' approx 5 months ago.
was going to try and slowly fade but couldnt do it.
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MidwichCuckoo
Welcome Carpediem ... looks like we may be neighbours!
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Dec. 15th WT - WT Skewed View of Love- Preach, Die, Suffer, Help our Own
by flipper inwell, they are up to their old tricks again.
trying to manipulate rank and file members views of what " real love " is again.. the title of the study article is " love that never fails " .
as my jw daughter so succinctly informed me a couple weeks ago that the most important way jehovah's witnesses are counseled to " show love " is by preaching the good news door to door.
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MidwichCuckoo
Flipper - Personally - I'd like to volunteer Jaracz and the rest of the GB to the front lines - see if they soil themselves or not. Idiots.
Yes...I like that scenario...unlikely, but 'what if' WT HQ was infiltrated and the GB taken 'hostage' under fear of death...and all THEY had to do was renounce their Faith in exchange for their freedom...I wonder what the outcome would be..? It's too easy (for them) to expect strangers to take their place, but personally, I don't think we should expect others to do what we're not prepared to do ourselves.
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Demonic Possesion of Inaminate Objects
by cantleave inthis is a phenonoma often discussed by jw's.
how unique is this idea to jw's?.
anyone got any good stories on this subject?.
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MidwichCuckoo
They can't see how illogical it is (I've heard of 'possessed' inanimate objects in the past). Buying a second hand item of clothing without knowing its origin could be risky BUT new clothes are alright..? So, once the material (from which source is unknown) is made into clothing it loses whatever demons may have been woven into it when it reaches the shelves of 'Primark'...?
...and let's not forget, next time you/they get cash from a hole in the wall (ATM), it's already been through so many hands/homes etc that some notes must be possessed. Which beggars the question, 'is cash for Christians?'
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More Cultural Differences - Strictness Levels & Demographic
by creativhoney infrom what i read on these threads it seems to me that the usa is a lot stricter than the uk, in all aspects of the religion.
- is this a general cultural thing, ie a lot of middle america are still a godfearing bunch, or just a witness thing, maybe a bit of both, and if anyone could provide examples of strictness, lets see how the same situation would be handled in the uk?
and is it easier going in cities than the country counterparts?
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MidwichCuckoo
From reading these forums, I get the same impression. I put it down (somewhat) to being 'distanced' so more detached from NY HQ.