Posts by tmo1965

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Bible Question...

by tan in

i have a question.

does anyone know when the first bible was printed?

is it a story of fables or stories?

tmo1965

Here's a Christian apologetics website that has a section on the Bible: http://www.carm.org/bible.htm

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WTS still an NGO in US?

by ICBehindtheCurtain in

hi all: i came across something very interesting, in looking at this pdf there is a list of ngo's that attended for some conference on anti-semitism and guess who is on there?

if you scroll down you will find that in belgium the wts (under their european christian jehovah's witness umbrella) but if you scroll down to the us section you will find that they show up as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, so apparently as of 2005 when this conference was held, they were still an ngo, does anyone else know about this?.

http://osce.usmission.gov/cordoba/cordoba_ngos.pdf.

tmo1965

If the organization arranging for that event is part of the UN, maybe this is just a listing of non-governmental orgs thsat attended the meeting, not just orgs that are registered w/the UN.

If they are so against worldly governments, what excuse is there for them to be associated with anything even remotely like the UN? They don't allow their members to associate with the DF'd or DA'd in any fashion do they?

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Blood Transfusion "matter of choice" for JWs

by dozy in

http://www.utvlive.com/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=80831&pt=n.

richard parker, a member of the jehovah`s witnesses, says that the refusal of transfusions is one of their fundamental beliefs.

based on what is written in the bible.it is not forbidden by their faith but is a matter of choice for the individual, he said.. who is richard parker - branch committee?

tmo1965

Rabbit - Been there and I watched it happen to my Mom.

Do you mind sharing what happened with your mom?

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Christians - Does a JW baptism count as Christian?

by AK - Jeff in

i tend to accept that mine did - i was baptised prior to the changes that made one a 'watchtower disciple'.

my dedication was and is to god - prob the reason i am finally out.. opinions?.

jeff .

tmo1965

Personally, I believe that the WTS is straight from the pits of Hell. Therefore, I would urge anyone who wishes to accept Jesus Christ according to the scriptures to renounce the JW religion and get baptised by submersion in a traditional Christian church in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

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LESSONS FROM HISTORY

by Doug Mason in

lessons from history .

i have a few reasons for providing the information that follows: .

* a very recent posting mentioned eschatologists of the 19th century (1800s) who provided ctr with his ideas on the interpretation of last-day prophecies.

tmo1965

Doug Mason,

What a load of WTS rubbish!! Whenever someone tries to calculate dates and time periods by applying unfounded "Biblical rules", that is a dead give away that they are speaking junk theology. Remember, "No on knows the day or the hour", which is God's way of telling us that we can't calculate any dates.

WAKE UP!!! The WTS is NOT God's channel of communication.

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March 4th Public Talk....''Satan and Demons use many traps to stumble us.''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the public talk was how satan uses his demons to stumble us.satan knows where we live,work and what we do at work and home.his demons use television,music,the internet,movies,sex and apostates to stumble faithful jehovah's witnesses.. the "spiritually weak" are what the demons look for because they can be attacked so easily.these are the ones who don't have studies with their families,watch too much television,go on the internet looking at apostate sites, brothers and sisters who are obsessed with sex,taking too many vacations,the love of money and all the pleasures of this world.that is why the wts loose so many members each year.. what they never tell you the real reason why most members leave are:,.

lack of love,elders as judges arrangment,inconstistency in teachings,1914 generation change,theological dishonesty,scholastic ineptitude,favoritism within the boe,hypocrisy, and false prophesies.. .

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tmo1965

"WBT$ accept profits from tobbaco and the US Navy" where did u get that from OUTLAW? new one on me

I heard about the Navy, but I didn't know about tobbaco. Someone donated stock in a company that makes tank parts (or something like that) for the Navy to the WTS. I believe they still own the stock. I saw the official documents on the Securities and Exchange Commission website.

Here's some more info taken from JWO - Kingdom Hall - 10 Problems I have with the WTS: Stock Ownership in Rand Engine Corp: Between the years of at least 1996-2002 the WTB&TS owned a substantial portion of stock (5,073,200 shares of Class A common stock) in Rand Cam Engine Corp, and a company known as REGI U.S. Inc (see Security and Exchange Commission file No. 0-23920 for REGI U.S., Inc. for fiscal year ended April 30, 2002 and Amendment No. 2 to Form SB-2 Registration Statement under The Securities Act of 1933 dated June 1992 for REGI U.S. Inc.). Rand Cam Engine Corp. owns a substantial portion of Rand Energy Group Inc. All of these companies perform research and development of engine technologies which have military and other applications. All of these companies seek out and have individually or collectively acquired contracts with, as an example, the US Navy (USN contract SBIR No1-144, announced on 12-6-01) to provide these goods and services they specialize in. I have a big problem with this. I don’t care how the WTB&TS obtained this stock, if it was a gift or they purchased it with money from donations, they should not have owned it or received the financial benefits of ownership in the stock. These companies serve the military with methods of armament, and make a profit doing it. That’s fine. Just don’t sermonize against the military and warfare, and then take financial advantage from it.

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2007 Yearbook

by RubyStevens in

i'll always have a weakness for looking through jw literature, the illustrations, the soothing repeating mush of a cult kind enough to do all your thinking for you.

well i was looking through the yearbook and the seams are really starting to show.

like was said in another thread, they try to have it both "intrest waning means the end is near/numbers are booming!

tmo1965

Thanks for the article. Just a couple weeks agos, I was looking for stats on how other church numbers compared to the JW stats.

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SUMMER 2007: WT RESEARCH

by pixel in

i'm planning this summer to go to bethel and read with my owns eyes all those stupid quotes that the wt had published since its creation.

i just wanna do that for fun and i may find some new eye-opening info.

my question is as follows:.

tmo1965

including books about the occult,

That's scary. Why would they need a book on the occult, when God clearly says to stay away from such?

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District Convention, Thoughts?

by Greenlees_or_Chitty in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axyz3os78vm.

tmo1965

My thought? I'm so glad I don't have to sit through that drivel anymore. The music is better at my church.

So, are you in a "regular" church now?

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Pharaoh's drowned army - arqueological proof found?

by Abishai in

i wanted to get your thoughts on the claim that pharaoh's drowned army was discovered.

the claim comes from ron wyatt.

he seems to have a cult following and some critics to his claims.

tmo1965

Sounds like the bloke that claimed he'd found Noah's Ark in the Turkish mountains.
A few bones and a chariot wheel and that means that god parted the red sea????????????
If your faith is bolstered by such utterly flimsy evidence i think it's time for a slap!!
My oh my.

Hey, it works for the evolution theory.

Seriously, I'm a devout believer and even I think this guy was a scam. I read somewhere that his find was proven fake. I'll see if I can find that article.