Very interesting, Coffee. I found the discourse, verbatim in the link, on The Great Pyramid quite entertaining. Everyone, including today's JW's, should treat themselves to the spinning that takes place on the passages, the rooms, the measurements, the accuracy, etc. All pointing to events in 1914, 1915, etc. I believe they hung on to this teaching till around 1928. It starts out like this:
THE GREAT PYRAMID, BUILT, 2170 B.C.
DEAR Friends: I have great pleasure in coming be fore you and speaking a little more concerning God’s purposes with regard to the time features of His plan. I want to remind you of our motto for this year, "In Due Time," and to show you how God has been working everything on time. It is six years since I first read the chapter on the Pyramid in the third volume of Millennial Dawn. At that time I was somewhat prejudiced against it; partly because the Pyramid is not the Bible, and partly because it seemed to me too fanciful to imagine that its various passages should symbolize the plan of salvation. I cast the matter entirely aside, and did not study it again until April of this year (1906), when I had to take it up in the usual course of the Glasgow class for Dawn study. My knowledge of God’s plan of salvation is now deeper and wider than it was six years ago and accordingly I am now better able to appreciate the symbolism of the Pyramid. As a result of this year’s study of the Great Pyramid I agree with Brother Russell that it is indeed God’s stone witness in Egypt. I now feel certain, dear friends, that God was the architect of this wonderful structure and ...
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Interesting...link to 1906 convention program
by coffee_black ini was searching on the web for something unrelated to jw stuff, and came across the following:.
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/treatises/1906cr.htm.
thought some might find it interesting.. coffee
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If You Had Internet Access Years Ago----Would You Have Gotten Out Sooner?
by minimus ini don't know if i could've 15 years ago because of having nowhere else to go, but now i know i couldn't stay.
what about you??
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No, I would have postponed getting out. I would've bided my time till some 10 years passed -- then wrote a letter to the elders just like Seeker4. That was some piece of work.
In 1977 when I was teetering on a decision I would've given just about anything to have JWD to check with, ask others their experiences, and to comfort me. To me, the fade would have been my choice because of my 4 boys. By stubbornly (yet honestly) speaking out to them and those I studied with, I was the perfect target for apostasy and subsequent DF.
Instead, I would have tried to stick around my family where I could have discreetly and subtly shared things with them as time passed. And kept learning from others, various ways to do it here on JWD. And using Peter's QUOTES site for reinforcement. We'll never know since we can't go back in time.
The rest is history. Two of my sons (and grandchildren) still have nothing to do with me.
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WTS vs Quotes: Requiem for a Research Web Site
by Quotes inin compliance with the terms of a settlement agreement, my information and research web site, http://quotes.watchtower.ca, is now "dark".
the domain "watchtower.ca" has been transferred to wts (i assume they will have it pointing to borg.org watchtower.org asap).
my copies of the site have been destroyed, the files deleted, and my wt library cd has been destroyed, in accordance with the settlement agreement which will afford a "discontinuance" of their suit against me.
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Thanks, Belbab, for such poetic beauty during this requiem. Especially to Quotes, as the source of that inspiration.
And to you WT (expletive), "It ain't over till it's over". Thank you for that, Yogi.
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Custody brochure next to be examined?
by alamb inthe blood information has now been dissected and shown for what it is.. .
the custody brochure encourages members to commit perjury, which is unconstitutional and unlawful.
this is another weak point.
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Oops! Sorry, Jourles. My post was so redundant. I didn't see that your reference was a link.
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Custody brochure next to be examined?
by alamb inthe blood information has now been dissected and shown for what it is.. .
the custody brochure encourages members to commit perjury, which is unconstitutional and unlawful.
this is another weak point.
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One of my favorites:
"You do not want to give the impression that your religion
requires you to allow your child to die should a
medical emergency arise."
Yeah, right.
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Custody brochure next to be examined?
by alamb inthe blood information has now been dissected and shown for what it is.. .
the custody brochure encourages members to commit perjury, which is unconstitutional and unlawful.
this is another weak point.
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The secret book? I wonder if this is the one?
http://www.davidgladden.com/jw/Docs/Child_Custody.pdf
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the Big News & 60 Min. or 20/20 or Dateline ?
by carla inwhat if we did a letter writing campaign to one of the big news shows about the 'big news' and asked them to check into this?
i think it would require large amounts of mail to get noticed.
any thoughts on this?
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Megadude -- you outdid yourself. Great composition!
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The 1968 quote re 1975, the COMPLETE one?
by Fatfreek ini hate to rehash but i googled this with no luck.
the following is a great quotation and i've always referred to it.
but does anyone have the complete one (without the ellipsis)?
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Again, Atlantis -- Thanks.
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The 1968 quote re 1975, the COMPLETE one?
by Fatfreek ini hate to rehash but i googled this with no luck.
the following is a great quotation and i've always referred to it.
but does anyone have the complete one (without the ellipsis)?
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Thanks, Atlantis. You've filled in the puzzle piece for me. It's made me feel somewhat uncomfortable about using that quotation that I opened this thread with, the one with the ellipsis token. There's seems to be too much room for conjecture in some discussion. Using your complete quotation, here's the way it's assembled.
Piece 1: Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ.
Ellipsis token: If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah’s loving and timely purposes. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth. It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah’s seventh creative "day." Why not? Because after his creation Adam lived some time during the "sixth day," which unknown amount of time would need to be subtracted from Adam’s 930 years, to determine when the sixth seven-thousand-year period or "day" ended, and how long Adam lived into the "seventh day." And yet the end of that sixth creative "day" could end within the same Gregorian calendar year of Adam’s creation.
Piece 2: It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years.
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The 1968 quote re 1975, the COMPLETE one?
by Fatfreek ini hate to rehash but i googled this with no luck.
the following is a great quotation and i've always referred to it.
but does anyone have the complete one (without the ellipsis)?
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I hate to rehash but I Googled this with no luck.
The following is a great quotation and I've always referred to it. But does anyone have the complete one (without the ellipsis)? Or a scan?
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"1968 "'Adam Created At Close Of 'Sixth Day' Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then ? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man's existence coincides with the Sabbath-like thousand-year reign of Christ....It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years.' (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p499)"