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  Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

  by leaving_quietly in

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  wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

  " in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

  of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

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  What is also interesting about the 1914 date is when Russell realized that there was no year Zero, he changed 1914 to 1915 for a brief period. Then when 1915 proved to be lacking anything significant to hang his "prophecy" on to, he moved his starting point, 606 BCE to 607 BCE and 1914 was reborn.
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  Sing Dirges to Jehovah?

  by donny in

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  back in 1985 my then-wife and i were having a lunchtime "gathering" at our place to show some support to the ones in our congregation who were full-time pioneers.

  i had just recently received the vinyl collection of the songs featured in the song book "sing praises to jehovah" which had been released the previous year.. .

  many of these melodies sounded depressing to me although i would have never admitted it at the time.

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  Back in 1985 my then-wife and I were having a lunchtime "gathering" at our place to show some support to the ones in our congregation who were full-time pioneers. I had just recently received the vinyl collection of the songs featured in the song book "Sing Praises to Jehovah" which had been released the previous year.
  
  Many of these melodies sounded depressing to me although I would have never admitted it at the time. The gathering dispersed around 5 pm and about 30 minutes later my non-JW parents came by to see their grandkids and to chat for a bit.
  
  As they entered our home one of the "Sing Praises to Jehovah" records was still playing at a low volume in the living room. As my parents sat down on the couch my mom asked "What is that music playing? It sounds like funeral music."
  
  I told her it was a JW production and she then added "Why is it so depressing sounding?"
  
  I had no real reply becuase I felt the same about many of the "Kingdom Melodies" myself.
  
  Some months ago I read a post from an ex-JW who had commented on a review of a gospel album and she stated that "Christendom" had much more uplifting music than the Jehovahs Witnesses did. She said "much of the Witnesses music sounded like "an accompaniment to a death march." Yesterday I was reading the story of our beloved Farkel and as he describes the experiences of his JW days he states that "Songs were sung with all the enthusiasm of a dirge."
  
  So do any of you other former, or even current, Jehovah's Witnesses feel that the Society's music was a big downer?
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  How Do Cults Function, Interesting Article We Know Too Well.

  by RottenRiley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought this artice might be a good read for our friends on jwn, do you see any of the tactics used by the watchtower?

  good day!.

  ..... cults, wonderful on the outside but on the inside are very manipulating.

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  Cult = A small unpopular religion.

  Religion = A large popular cult.
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  Funny looking dude talking about JW's

  by donny in

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  http://www.amatterofdoubt.com/.

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  Yes, it is yours truly.
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  Funny looking dude talking about JW's

  by donny in

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  http://www.amatterofdoubt.com/.

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  http://www.amatterofdoubt.com/
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  Interview with an apostate. Punkofnice AKA Paul Jackson

  by punkofnice in

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  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i got married to another cult member and we have 3 children who are all grown up now.

  the 2 boys are not interested in the jw cult (thank goodness).

  when i left the disgusting cult my wife left me.. were you a born in or a convert?.

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  Great post Punk! Virtually all of it was experienced by me at one point or another. I too regret that I gave "Christendom" too much consideration before I finally opened my eyes all the way.
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  Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On

  by MrFreeze in

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  2. experiences

  i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.

  i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.

  i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.

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  Getting "adjusted" for engaging in oral sex.
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  A Time to Heal.....even when we caused the wound

  by donny in

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  2. beliefs

  1991 was the last full year i was an active jw.

  when i formally resigned in september 1992 my now ex-wife had already pretty much took all of the bound volumes and other society literature.. .

  the only thing i was left with was a few copies of the nwt and the 1991 bound volumes the watchtower and awake!

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  1991 was the last full year I was an active JW. When I formally resigned in September 1992 my now ex-wife had already pretty much took all of the bound volumes and other Society literature.
  
  The only thing I was left with was a few copies of the NWT and the 1991 bound volumes the Watchtower and Awake! I had not really looked at them in all that time since then but when I was cleaning up some of my old pack-rat boxes the other day I found them and placed in the downstairs restroom for perusing while sitting on my anointed throne.
  
  With all of the publicity over child molesting in the JW ranks the past several years, the October 8, 1991 Awake caught my eye. The caption at the bottom of the page reads "Healing the Wounds of Child Abuse." Since the articles in this magazine was printed before all of the recent scandals, I thought it would be an interesting read.
  
  The articles go on to discuss how damaging this type of abuse can be. It says molestation is a "defilement of flesh and spirit." It states that most of the abusers are usually close family members and friends, often the father.
  
  Then the next article is titled "A Time to Heal." Surprisingly it often references secular books and experts on this sensitive subject. It emphatically states that IT IS NOT THE CHILDS FAULT and the abuser alone bears the full responsibility for what transpired.
  
  It says the victim may find some resolution by confronting the abuser by letter, phone or even in person. The letter may state what the abuse has done to you and you can even declare some expectations such as an apology, payment of doctor bills, or even a change of conduct of the molester.
  
  The last section deals with healing and recovery and states this can be done with help from Gods Word. By reading the scriptures and diligently applying its principals can ease the stress caused by these violations upon your person. One abuse victim stated "When I realized that Jehovah was aware of every feeling I had and that he cared - really cared - then I finally felt peace inside."
  
  The article ends with the scriptural assurance that our "loving God, Jehovah" will wipe out every memory of childhood pain and that this hope will sustain and strengthen you as you travel the road toward full recovery.
  
  After taking some Advil to alleviate the pain caused by the gut wrenching laugh I had after reading the article, what really stood out to me was that not once in the 9 pages of dealing with this hard-to-talk-about subject was the suggestion that law enforcement be contacted. You could tell your parents, friends and the elders but apparently the police was out of the question.
  
  While articles in other issues suggested that calling the police was appropriate when you, the adult, was robbed, threatened or physically attacked, this option was not on the table when it came to the young and innocent. Rather you were to put your trust in the environment that was most likely the source of the abuse to begin with.
  
  I formally declare that I have disfellowshipped the other 143,999 of the anointed body for conduct unbecoming even of an animal.
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  And now Joseph speaks

  by donny in

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  well after the international bible student founder charles russell came to me in a dream a few days ago and gave his opinion on the current state of the watchtower society, his views evidently found their way to his successor, joseph franklin rutherford a.k.a the judge.

  not to be outdone by his predecessor, he decided to invade my dreamland last night.. .

  i was enjoying a view of mt.

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  And to think that some of actually thought at one time God used him.
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  And now Joseph speaks

  by donny in

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  2. experiences

  well after the international bible student founder charles russell came to me in a dream a few days ago and gave his opinion on the current state of the watchtower society, his views evidently found their way to his successor, joseph franklin rutherford a.k.a the judge.

  not to be outdone by his predecessor, he decided to invade my dreamland last night.. .

  i was enjoying a view of mt.

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  I think ol' Ruthy was my favorite JW spokeman. He was really jacked up and yet passed himself off as normal.