Well Emeth that definitley looks better than the one I received. I like how in recent years that Jesus bears a strong resemblance to Kenny Loggins. I guess I was wrong, Jesus was of European decent.
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25What happened to the "Witness" part of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by donny ini just got back from my afternoon walk/run and about a block from home i saw two sets of jw's going door to door handing out invites to the memorial.. the first pair walked past me and only said "good afternoon" as they passed.. about two minutes later the second pair approached me and handed me an invite to 2014 memorial on april 14. i asked them why they chose the jw's as their church of choice and was told "we'd like to chat more but we have a set number of invites we have to get out before the memorial.
if you contact the kingdom hall listed here, they will tell you more... on how god's kingdom will rid the world of satan and the evil associated with him.".
i replied "you can't talk now?".
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Seth Andrews, host of the Thinking Atheist podcast @ www.thethinkingatheist.com interviewed Nathan Phelps, one of Fred's sons who left the church. The interview took place on March 18, just before Fred died, and he gives some great insight into this man who let hate run amock.
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Joining a Church and advice from co-workers!!!!!!!!!!
by Jon Preston inso im obviously out mentally....i havent da-ed but i cant care less!
but.....my co workers are encouraging me to find and join a church.
this person is particularly "wisdomonian" meaning she seems to solve and assist many an ailing indicidual in my field.
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Of you can choose the path of no religion and just concentrate on living life and doing what you can to improve it. For myself, I went throught a phase where I visited many churches of different stripes, but eventually decided that while many of them were easier to believe, they were equally untrue. Whatever the path you choose, let it be your decision and do not bow to the pressure of others.
Donny Ray
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What happened to the "Witness" part of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by donny ini just got back from my afternoon walk/run and about a block from home i saw two sets of jw's going door to door handing out invites to the memorial.. the first pair walked past me and only said "good afternoon" as they passed.. about two minutes later the second pair approached me and handed me an invite to 2014 memorial on april 14. i asked them why they chose the jw's as their church of choice and was told "we'd like to chat more but we have a set number of invites we have to get out before the memorial.
if you contact the kingdom hall listed here, they will tell you more... on how god's kingdom will rid the world of satan and the evil associated with him.".
i replied "you can't talk now?".
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emeth:
First of all ,.. invitations for the memorial are never printed out by brothers and sisters at home but are printed by the society and look the same worldwide
2nd the invitations will be distributed starting saturday march 22nd and not sooner.
So these JW's are participating in a rogue operation here? This invite was definitley not printed by a professional, so does this mean they are running ahead of Jehovah?
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TRUTH: Here today and gone tomorrow
by Terry inthe man who invented the religion known as "jehovah's witnesses," was joseph franklin rutherford.. he is the same man who spread the message, "religion is a snare and a racket.".
that's right, religion was the poison that caused the rot in the world.. were jehovah's witnesses a "religion?
" hell no!.
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Buy it, Buy it!!
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Terrys New Book
by SAHS ini just finished reading terry walstroms new book i wept by the rivers of babylon, and i just had to say that i thoroughly enjoyed it!
i just purchased the kindle version from amazon about a week ago and found it quite hard to put it down.
(heres the direct link: http://www.amazon.com/wept-rivers-babylon-prisoner-conscience/dp/1492902063/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1394547792&sr=1-1&keywords=i%20wept%20by%20the%20rivers%20of%20babylon&tag=vglnk-c1113-20.).
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It is a great book about one's harrowing journey through the Watchtower.
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What happened to the "Witness" part of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by donny ini just got back from my afternoon walk/run and about a block from home i saw two sets of jw's going door to door handing out invites to the memorial.. the first pair walked past me and only said "good afternoon" as they passed.. about two minutes later the second pair approached me and handed me an invite to 2014 memorial on april 14. i asked them why they chose the jw's as their church of choice and was told "we'd like to chat more but we have a set number of invites we have to get out before the memorial.
if you contact the kingdom hall listed here, they will tell you more... on how god's kingdom will rid the world of satan and the evil associated with him.".
i replied "you can't talk now?".
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I just got back from my afternoon walk/run and about a block from home I saw two sets of JW's going door to door handing out invites to the memorial.
The first pair walked past me and only said "Good afternoon" as they passed.
About two minutes later the second pair approached me and handed me an invite to 2014 memorial on April 14. I asked them why they chose the JW's as their church of choice and was told "We'd like to chat more but we have a set number of invites we have to get out before the memorial. If you contact the Kingdom Hall listed here, they will tell you more ... on how God's Kingdom will rid the world of Satan and the evil associated with him."
I replied "You can't talk now?"
"No sir," came the answer. "We are quite busy at the moment but check out that contact info and your questions will get answered, I promise."
As he left I took a look at the invite and it is just a 4" x 5" piece of white paper with no pictures. The text reads:
Memorial of Jesus’ Death
You are warmly invited to meet with us to observe the anniversary of Jesus’ death. Find a meeting location near you.
You Are Invited
On the night before he died, Jesus instructed his disciples to commemorate the sacrifice that he was about to make. He told them: “Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”—Luke 22:19.
In 2014, the anniversary of Jesus’ death falls on Monday, April 14, after sundown. Jehovah’s Witnesses invite you, your family, and your friends to come on that date to listen to a brief talk explaining why Jesus’ death is so important.
This free event will take place at:
1484 Constitution Blvd,
Salinas, CA 93905
(831) 442-1400What happened to Witnessing by the Witnesses? And I know they are tight on money, but this invite was obviously printed by a publisher on his home PC.
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Seeds of Doubt.
by donny inseeds of doubt.
what was it about the jw religion that first gave you serious doubts as to its truthiness?.
for me it occurred in late 1984 when we were studying the brochure the divine name that will endure forever which had been released at the summer convention that year.
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Great replys everybody! Many of your points/issues you listed so far were other notches taken out of the Watchtower tree that finally led to its toppling for me.
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Seeds of Doubt.
by donny inseeds of doubt.
what was it about the jw religion that first gave you serious doubts as to its truthiness?.
for me it occurred in late 1984 when we were studying the brochure the divine name that will endure forever which had been released at the summer convention that year.
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Seeds of Doubt
What was it about the JW religion that first gave you serious doubts as to its “truthiness?”
For me it occurred in late 1984 when we were studying the brochure “The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever” which had been released at the summer convention that year. I had been baptized a year earlier and was still in the “unshakeable faith in the leaders” phase.
One of the sections talked about the pronunciation of the name and how some complain that it should be “Yahweh”. That issue never did bother me. I always chuckled when someone would argue that there was no “J” in Hebrew and a few minutes later would refer to “Jesus.”
However what did begin to bother me was the introduction of “Jehovah” in the New Testament. The brochure stated truthfully that there were no known existing manuscripts from the very early church era that contained the name. They all used “Kyrios” which was rendered “Lord” in English.
The Society insisted that the name was there, however the scribes of the early church allowed the Jewish superstition of avoiding saying the name cloud their thinking and eventually all references to Jehovah were removed from the New Testament.
This did not sit well with me. How could the most high being, who seemed to place a lot of importance on us knowing his name, allow mere man to erase his personal identity from all early church documents. That just did not make sense.
Then I began to look at the translations of the New Testament in Hebrew that were cited in the appendix of the New World Translation. Perhaps there was some hope to be found there
So I went to the library a few weeks later and did some of my own research. I looked up a couple of these Hebrew translations and discovered that these had done just what the translators of the New World Translation had done. They had taken the manuscripts containing “Lord” and rendered it as YHWH.
However, unlike the NWT, the Hebrew versions were more consistent in their rendering of “Lord.” They used it in passages like Philippians 2:11 so if you translated it back into English it would read “and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is YHWH, to the glory of God the Father. “
When I asked an elder about this he stated that “Those Hebrew versions were correct in ‘restoring’ Jehovah’s name to the Greek scriptures however they let the prevailing Trinitarian mindsets of the day to cloud their good judgment.”
This issue caused the first crack in my spiritual armor. I tried to put it to the back of my mind but it would always pop back in from time to time. As the years progressed I began to discover other types of waffling and questionable methods of reasoning as well as outright misrepresenting of others when using their writings for quotes.
What caused the first cracks in your armor?
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What's the greatest movie no-one's ever heard of?
by rory-ks inyou know, that film you really love, but when you mention it everyone's, like, "eh?".
i'll get the ball rolling.
for me: ulee's gold..
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"My Week in Atheism" by John Cristy and David Smalley.