Who are the spies?
Posts by Dune
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JW spies on the JWD
by greendawn inwhat do you have to say to all the jws who under the direction of the governing body are lurking and spying on this forum and then give the gathered intel to their masters?
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More fun and games....Reasons not to hire a JW.....
by riotgirlpeeps inso i have seen many anti experience threads etc.
my father (a jw elder) has had several businesses for a number of years.
(thanks dad i'll follow your example really well and become an excellent business person.
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Dune
Considering that conventions and assemblies are prepared for months in advance. Its funny that you should say that he asked for a day off at the last minute, quit when it wasnt given, and then was on the convention plaform for sacrificing his job soon after the ordeal.
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WTS Bills US JWs $8.4 million for Traveling Overseers
by ezekiel3 inbeing announced at service meetings this week at all us congregations:.
a letter read during the announcements states that due to increased costs of health insurance and vehicles provided for traveling overseers (circuit and district overseers) the watchtower bible and tract society has determined the need to ask for a specific "contribution" for the "traveling overseer assistance arrangement".. .
until this date expenses of this sort were paid from the worldwide work or general fund of contributions.. .
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Dune
Hmmm, i didnt hear that..Must've missed it.
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blow out at kingdumb hall build today
by johnny cip inthey are adding a second floor to this hall that they have had for at least 40 years.
in gunhill rd bronx new york city.
i started by asking dumb questions .
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Dune
Arent you proving WTS right whenever you pull a splinter cell/metal gear? Just a thought...
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Does the WTBTS still control your life?
by Honesty indo you follow the arrangement dictated by the governing body of jw's regarding df'd and da'd individuals?
do you shun the jw's like you are expected to by wt leaders or do you speak to jw's and greet them with a smile even if they shun you when you do so?
in complying with wtbts rules of acceptable behavior for da'd or df'd persons do you think that you are showing unconditional love to your neighbor?
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Dune
Some of you were respectful, others were just down right nasty. Jeanniebeanz. NO ONE is disfellowshipped for speaking to disfellowshipped family members. read Km 8/02. I know you guys have the watchtower libraries. And i'm not trying to reconvert anyone, I guess i'm just amused by this pseudo-support group. As much as you say that we are "blinded" or "lost" or are just "idiots", your bitterness is only surpassed by your need to validate your views. And save your little fingers if you plan on replying to me, i'm not coming back to this topic.
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Does the WTBTS still control your life?
by Honesty indo you follow the arrangement dictated by the governing body of jw's regarding df'd and da'd individuals?
do you shun the jw's like you are expected to by wt leaders or do you speak to jw's and greet them with a smile even if they shun you when you do so?
in complying with wtbts rules of acceptable behavior for da'd or df'd persons do you think that you are showing unconditional love to your neighbor?
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Dune
Taken away the resurrection of Jesus? Its clearly stated that jesus arose three days after his death, no one is denying that he was ressurrected then ascended to heaven. The ressurection of jesus is recognized, just not celebrated like those in christendom. We observe the "memorial"(as you put it) because we are instructed to in the bible (note that we arent instructed to celebrate the ressurection). I dont know the specifics of your 30 years of "cutting off of family and friends", but i can say with out a doubt that any changes that may have come about during that time were backed up scripturally, and whether or not you wanted to follow it was of your own accord.
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Does the WTBTS still control your life?
by Honesty indo you follow the arrangement dictated by the governing body of jw's regarding df'd and da'd individuals?
do you shun the jw's like you are expected to by wt leaders or do you speak to jw's and greet them with a smile even if they shun you when you do so?
in complying with wtbts rules of acceptable behavior for da'd or df'd persons do you think that you are showing unconditional love to your neighbor?
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Dune
No one is taking away your freedom. WTBTS doesnt have a gun held to the heads of all the witnesses. What is expected of us is clearly stated in the bible and If you dont want to follow it thats on you. God doesnt force us to serve him. But, Despite how you feel however, there are alot of people who are bitter or disagree with these arrangements and thats who i was addressing the post to.
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Does the WTBTS still control your life?
by Honesty indo you follow the arrangement dictated by the governing body of jw's regarding df'd and da'd individuals?
do you shun the jw's like you are expected to by wt leaders or do you speak to jw's and greet them with a smile even if they shun you when you do so?
in complying with wtbts rules of acceptable behavior for da'd or df'd persons do you think that you are showing unconditional love to your neighbor?
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Dune
People arent "Dis'd" because they had sex or commited some other serious sin. The wrong has already been exposed. They are disfellowshiped because they're unrepentant and choose to live their lives in contrast to how God wants us to, and not by what the WTBTS says, but what the bible says. And those who "Da'd" themselves, they willfully severe the ties THEMSELVES, so they know exactly what they're forfeiting and shouldnt expect to be able mingle with other witnesses like nothin has happened.
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VERY ANGRY at jw for treating someone special to me/other women so bad
by VH5150 ini think that the way jw treats women is absolutely terrible!!!!!
makes me want to confront them and give the powers that be a taste of the same medicine they dish out.
how can the be so cold and insensitive to treat another human being this way for any reason and try to justify with the words of the bible.
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Dune
As I have said before, your arguments are weak. The article was just, again, drawing an analogy. If you read the whole article and tried to understood its context,MAYBE you'd be able to accept it. The article was simply showing how ideal it would be if human beings showed a little less emphasis on sex. Then WTS tries to continue with the point and apply it in a way that readers will understand. And while you do say that WTS compares women to a cow, and you've never seen them refer to a man like that, I've yet to see another article in which women or men are compared to animals as far as their sexual powers. and do keep in mind that the article was publish in 1967. Its sad that you guys can go off on something that occured once almost 40 years ago. but as I said before, you need to convince yourselves. So i dont blame you :-d.
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VERY ANGRY at jw for treating someone special to me/other women so bad
by VH5150 ini think that the way jw treats women is absolutely terrible!!!!!
makes me want to confront them and give the powers that be a taste of the same medicine they dish out.
how can the be so cold and insensitive to treat another human being this way for any reason and try to justify with the words of the bible.
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Dune
I've never seen people so desperate to convince themselves of something so stupid in my life. If you want to go with the modern day view of 50/50 then go ahead. But its pathetic when people lie like you all have. First off, Time and time again we are told that husbands should treat their wives like they would like to be treated, so any man who is abuses his wife in anyway isnt even fit to call himself a witness. Second, that comment about a cow is pure nonsense. Humans are essentially mammals, all the WTS was doing was drawing an analogy. It doesnt say that "YOUNG GIRLS ARE COWS" it was simply showing a similarity. All of your arguments are weak and pathetic. But i understand your need to valify your leaving/denying the truth. So I dont blame any of you. Thats whats so good about life, we can believe and do whatever we want.