Invitation To Americans To Find Fault With The British..
I thought we ought to even things up a little..
Go for it!
Respectfully Abaddon, Simon and Englishman
This thread was started by E-man who thought he would even thing up a bit because it seems to me he thought that perhaps a little too much American Bashing was going on. The thread was 99 percent tame and 99 percent in jest by responding posters. After my initial comment I felt that this thread would turn into an American bashing thread and I shut up about not understanding the royal family.
Hell I don?t understand why my tax dollars are spent on protecting presidential dogs and presidents and family member?s years after they have left. I don?t understand why the Military is allowed to spend 6 million dollars a day on advertising.
But I write and have spoken to my congressmen and women, my countrymen speak and write to congress to bitch about such. But because it seems that there is this broad encompassing belief that Americans do not do such and other people who see such from other countries and think that we don?t care and don?t do a damn thing is what sparks much of the controversy. No one know how much many here do because you do not see the letters, you do not view the Congressional hearings. Rallys and such are only put on the news when it suits the media etc, etc.
I could bitch about their politics and political leaders all day long, but it would accomplish nothing.~~StinkyP
Yeah, I suppose all those people who bitched to their MPs (representatives) about the South African apartheid reigeme needing sanctions were WASTING THEIR TIME!? I suppose people who in any way have criticised other countries for bad things they have or are doing were just wasting their time? So, Austria being castigated for electing neo-nazis (they should know better), Germany for having racist citizenship law, France for being religioiusly bigoted? We should just SAY NOTHING?~~ Abaddon
I believe Stinky was referring to the constant bashing of Bush and others here in this forum and stating that even if she were to say Blair is a ?no nothing idiot? whose agenda is that of a monkey it will not accomplish anything. We will not be able to change your political system, no matter how much we bitch about it. Same way no matter how many Americans bitch about a royal family and PM is not going to change your system?as the British bitching about ours will not change how it is run.
However Americans do the same, spoke against apartheid in congress and nationally and on the scene in Africa to try and change that oppressive regime. Americans and British have spoken out in the past to the point of going to war for those oppressed in Germany. However what I take from your comments is that, your or anyone who is not American speaking against Bush may change his reign if you will. This is what our elections do and just as you have your royalty and it is in place and seems as if it will stay that way forever our election process will stay the same as well. I believe much of American 'helping' started with good intentions-- it just changed direction when those who needed it saw the power it could bring.
That won?t change. There are many who disagree here that why there are so many parties?trying to make a difference but perhaps a too slow one? Perhaps those afraid Bush will be voted in again? It all unfortunately does not come down to what he has to offer-- but party lines and this is changing IMO slowly by the adding of new parties so ones choice is not so limited. But the stubbornness of Republicans and Democrats to stay along party lines instead of voting in someone who could bring about change is not happening. British regime has been in place for hundreds and hundreds of years the opposite of America?s young political system.
However changing the 'icouldgiveashitless' about anyone but me because my country is bountiful, the best, can change and I do believe it is changing for the better--allbeit slowly. Those attitudes are not indicative of all Americans anymore, there are too many who travel to help countries in need and those who try and support through donations and time to those in need as well.
Americans are a melting pot who are not one nationality under god but that of hundreds of nationality?s who emigrated here from countries which were oppressive. Perhaps that has some to do with the indifference you see? Those who left never want to travel the road to rags or oppression again and feel if I can make a better life for myself-- then anyone can.
Many are living a better life than that which they were and many are here trying to do so but failing because they had too high expectations?because you know America is the best! I can do anything! But in all reality they need to work and speak out to assure that life they need. And in trying to attain such they forget about their roots and past because it may be too painful to remember or because they are too intent on living the ever evading ?American Dream? to see past their nose.
I will be the first to agree that many Americans are couch potatoes and arm chair politicians but America came into power very quickly outgrew it?s britches, became pompous and arrogant due to that fact, and now the reality is hitting many Americans who do wish to change. A slow process which many are dealing with and do not appreciate being lumped into the title of all, you, it them.
Now please don't hit me--PLEASE.
I would like to ask if perhaps some of this hatred may be from the fact that young Americans are indeed British, and in fact the polotical system we see was made by Ex-British citizens. Many of us are inherintly British or European ourselves-- is it because you expected better from your own or maybe some of the American hatred by some Brtis could come down to jealousy-- in the fact the the US became powerful so quickly? I am not saying this is now today but years and years ago when it was said 'The Colonies' would never amount to anything and prisoners and such were sent here as punishment. And the resentment has carried over generations, as I am sure resentment from those fleeing now American's towards the British. America was not supossed to make it, but overcame may obsticals to do so-- perhaps that is where some of the American arrogance comes from as well--OK big breath out.
Cassi
.....btw...that "rotting shrimp in the curtains" story ends with the newly-weds (the xhubby & his new wife) moving, making sure they took everything with them, including the curtains...heh