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  Need help with this…..

  by JackC in

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  hey everyone.

  im 35, have been a witness for 30, baptized at 19, married at 22 and now have 3 kids.

  my wife and i are leaving and are considering all the options.

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  fahrvegnugen

  I'm with Drew on this one. Those who make a big angry scene when they leave just end up reinforcing the Society's stereotype of "apostates" as unbalanced, angry people who went off the deep end. Leave with grace and dignity,and you just may give something for others to think about.
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  Dumbing down of WT literature can be measured mathematically.

  by hamsterbait in

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  every magazine on the news stand is very carefully aimed at a target market.. .

  it has long been known that how information is presented makes a big difference to who will read it.

  you will agree that the ny times or scientific american are more erudite than the national enquirer or the toronto star.. .

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  fahrvegnugen

  I would contend that the literature has become progressively dumbed down over the last several decades. Go back and browse through some of the old books from the 70s and earlier especially the ones dealing with prophetic parallels--these were not for the simple-minded. I know because I studied many of them in depth--from the Studies in the Scriptures on down. This style of book pretty much ended with Fred Franz. Since then it's been mostly fluff with some occasional older stuff mixed in.
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  Bible Study Statistics

  by TheListener in

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  i've always thought that a meaningful statistic, that isn't specifically reported by the society is the percentage of bible studies that get baptized.

  there is a steady downward trend of those studying getting baptized.. here is the u.s. and world statistics since 1990 for the number studying vs. the number baptized:.

  (honestly i can't figure out how to format this stuff very well).

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  There is definitely a percentage of bible studies that fit into that category. During my 6 years of pioneering, I had a mixed lot. Some were "seekers," some were mentally "slow" and others were just plain lonely. My favorite study would fit into this last category. The guy had been an engineer for Lockheed. After he retired his wife divorced him and the guy was left with nothing to do but sit around and grow old. We used to have 2-hour studies where the subject matter would wander all over the map. The guy could talk the legs off a chair, but was an enjoyable conversationalist. He eventually got baptized after I had moved out of the area, but I don't think he stuck with it for more than a year or two.
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  Napoleon Dynamite = CRAP!

  by sonnyboy in

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  my gawd.

  i noticed that the movie got decent reviews and i didn't really hear anything bad about it, so i gave it a chance on hbo tonight.. .

  these stupid ass reviewers got duped.

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  fahrvegnugen

  Great movie!

  Best line: "I caught you a delicious bass."
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  You Know You Are a Cult if you...

  by myself in

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  you know you are a redneck in a cult if you:

  are cut off from your family or friends because they are considered a danger to your cult-like beliefs.

  are taught everything through repetition,repetition,repetition.. are taught to fear for your life (everlasting) if you leave it.. question its teachings you are doomed.. everything outside of its organization is a tool of satan.

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  I've never had a corporation cut me off from family. I doubt that corprations see outsiders as tools of Satan

  Apparently you've never worked for a corporation.
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  Way back in time. Did anyone attend Assembly that Michael Jackson went to?

  by out of the box in

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  we had some of the cong go all the way to california to attend the same assembly that they knew michael jackson would attend!

  when i made a comment about how they were going just to get a glimpse of him.

  that was not received too well.

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  fahrvegnugen

  And Prince studied with Sly, from Sly and the Family Stone

  I thought he studied with Larry Graham--the bass player for Sly and the Family Stone. I know Larry is a JW, his life story was in Awake! back in the 80s I think.
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  Did you really believe?

  by Sassy in

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  i had a friend in all sincerity, tell me recently that i never really believed.

  to which i do not agree.

  i did and with all my heart.

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  I absolutely, completely and thoroughly believed. Is that emphatic enough?
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  Jah

  by Inkie in

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  the name jah is found throughout the hebrew scriptures.

  have you not tried reading a hebrew interlinear to see this?

  examples of the use of jah are found even in many peoples' names such as: isaiah (meaning salvation of jah), jeremiah (meaning jah loosens), zedekiah (meaning jah is righteousness), zephaniah (meaning jah has concealed), zechariah (meaning jah has remembered), abijah (meaning my god is jah), etc., etc., etc.

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  "Yahweh or Jahveh simply means Jah Causes to Become"

  I think your Hebrew is a tad off. It means "HE causes to become" and Jah is simply the shortened form of the name. In transliterated Hebrew the word is YHWH, from the verb hawah' -- I don't claim to be a scholar, but I take this to mean you can't seperate the YH and use that as a noun "Jah" because the rest of the word WH would no longer make any sense. The word is a form of a verb - not a noun. Any linguistics majors here?
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  blessing before meals

  by Raoul in

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  i am having some friends over for dinner in the near future who are jehovah's witnesses.

  is there anything i need to know before i ask the blessing over our food?

  i don't want to ruin our evening before it has begun.

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  Of course it's your home and you are entitled to do as you wish, but since you asked the question, I'm assuming you care about putting them at ease. You can simply ask them what they prefer. Since individual JW's are all over the map on these sorts of things, it's impossible to know whether they would be comfortable with having someone else offer a prayer or not. Maybe they would feel better just saying their own prayers to themselves.
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  Kiss the son lest God be angry and you perish in the way

  by Quotes in

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  in another thread, quentin reminded us all of the lyrics to one of the kingdom songs: .

  "kiss the son lest god be angry and you perish in the way" .

  my question is: .

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  AlmostAtheist:

  This translation issue is very interesting. After a quick once-over of their argument, and a look at a couple of reference works--I think they have a legitimate point. The text seems to make more sense if you read it their way.