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  Kingdom Hall Scheduler

  by Thetruthhurts in

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  i'm sure there's already topics on this but i couldn't find one so i'm starting my own.

  is the kingdom hall scheduling program new?

  is this where they are entering all of the members data now?

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  sir82

  Cell phone carrier?

  No one needs to know that. Something fishy there.
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  Hilarious JW Wikipedia edits

  by neat blue dog in

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  jehovah's witnesses are funny in that most have no objective, self-aware view of themselves.

  they think they are the center of the universe, that their beliefs are undeniable facts, and are generally very entitled.

  yet another added this:.

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  They think they are the center of the universe, that their beliefs are undeniable facts, and are
  generally very entitled.

  LOL. Yep.

  Did you know that World War 2 was started by Satan himself, personally, for the sole reason of attempting of exterminate all JWs?

  Oh, how about this one? JWs were having so much success in the 1950s, starting Bible studies with housewives who would then convince their husbands to join them, that Satan prompted economic downturns such that "houswives" had to go out and get jobs. Thus, no one was at home when JWs called there, and so they were not able to start so many Bible studies.

  Oh there's a million stories like these.
  
  
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  Ancient Hebrews Got Away With So Much

  by Tim207 in

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  2. bible

  why wasn’t judah punished for sleeping withtamar?

  even though she had the legal right to an offspring by his family he still thought he was sleeping with a prostitute.

  if it is wrong to even think of having relations with a woman similar to the “sin” of watching pornography why wouldn’t what judah did be wrong?

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  Wealthy males in the dominant ethnicity got away with, at times, literal murder.

  A piddling little thing like "sleeping with your daughter-in-law because you think she's a hooker" wouldn't even rate a 2-line story in the Jericho Times.

  Funny how little things change in 3000+ years.
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  Trying to get my head around these go bags

  by phoenixrising in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was looking at prepping back in the 90s i was told by several elders that we needed to just rely on the org and jehovah and not prep.

  i started to put away vacuum sealed bags of rice beans and spices anyway.

  now they have this go bag crap.

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  All the "go bag" stuff happened after Hurricane Katrina.

  Thousands, probably tens of thousands, of JWs were forced to evacuate their homes, sometimes ending up hundreds of miles away. There was no organized system of checking up on anyone, so it was the perfect opportunity for JWs to "fade".

  The organization was, and is, utterly horrified that they might be forced to loosen even slightly their stranglehold grip on control & power over their adherents, so now there are orders for every congregation to have a "disaster plan", including giving your phone numbers and out-of-state contacts to the elders. So in case there is another Katrina-scale disaster, the elders can hunt you down. No more easy fading.

  The "go bags" are part of the protocol for those congregation disaster plans. But as noted, by far the most important piece of that plan, from the WTS perspective, is making sure that contact information for every publisher is up-to-the-minute current and in the hands of the BOE.
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  My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  brothers and sisters associated with the watchtower society may 9, 2020. i have tried to inform you of the necessary adjustments you ought to take in order to truly be in the truth.

  but my efforts have remained fruitless.

  you well know the biblical procedure.

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  Ooh, a demand!

  I'm sure they'll get right on it....

  ...right after they answer the 48.987 other letters from other cranky ex-members telling them what exactly what they've got wrong.

  Lotsa luck.....
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  Memories of Maryland Conventions!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  posting for brother x. petra!.

  if you were a child during the years of 1960 to 1970, the question isn't; do you remember these conventions?

  the question is; how could you forget?

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  The coldest I have ever been in my life, literally, occurred at Three Rivers Stadium (Pittsburgh, long since torn down).

  It was summer, fer gawd's sake, don't remember the date, but it was either July or August, because the conventions in Pittsburgh were always July or August.

  Had to travel to Pittsburgh from Sir-town for the convention, so of course only packed clothes for summer.

  Was working the food stand. Always got put at the food stand.

  Anyways, for some reason, it was unseasonably cold that morning.

  Our food stand was directly in front of one of the 4 main "gates" that served as entrances into the stadium.

  In addition to the temperatures (in the 40s? below 10 C) being so cold, a fierce wind was blowing....directly from the direction that gate was facing....funneled into the narrow gate....right at the food stand.

  Thought I would die.

  Somehow (I guess because I was outranked) I got stuck at the coffee urn.

  Of course, on such a cold morning, EVERYBODY wanted coffee.

  It was maybe a 30 or 40 cup urn, took 5-10 minutes to brew if it was filled up. People were demanding coffee RIGHT NOW, they were in semicircular rows 5 deep, then 8 deep, then 12 deep, they had all paid their "food tickets" and were wanting the coffee they had ordered.

  Poor little coffee urn, and me, couldn't keep up. But if you didn't give the people their coffee, the lines just got longer and longer and longer...

  I have this foggy memory of freezing cold, fingers stiff, in pain from the wind whipping, in only short sleeves, splashing tan water with a hint of coffee flavoring (as the urn was not done brewing) into styrofoam cup after styrofoam cup, cup after cup after cup after cup after cup after cup....

  Good times.
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  Have you ever known elders who were more into being and elder than really being a believer?

  by phoenixrising in

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  2. beliefs

  i have known many elders who were much more into the idea of being an elder and getting all the old ladies to tell them what wonderful talks they give and the power then really being a believer.

  i had one elder tell me that when he became an elder he was on top dog on top of the heap.

  i knew some who were really all about the religion and following the cult.

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  Rub a dub's elder categories are spot-on, though I would probably adjust the percentages.

  This is one of those things that should probably, by now, no longer shock me, but still does:

  A very large proportion of elders have virtually their entire identity wrapped up in being "an elder". It is Who They Are, period, full stop. Literally their whole life revolves around "elder stuff".

  That's why it is so devastating if they are ever "removed" as an elder. Suddenly, their identity is torn away. Who are they? They've devoted virtually their entire existence to being An Elder, and now they aren't. They have no interests, no passions, no hobbies, no nothing. They're just a shell. It would be sad if it weren't entirely of their own (stupid) making.
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  What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?

  by devout_no_more in

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  first of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.

  i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".

  frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.

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  The United Nations wouldn't have the ability to enforce fishing limits in a backyard pool, much less "come for your religion".
  

  I wouldn't lose any sleep over the possibility that "maybe the JWs are right".
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  This is not even close to the cult I grew up in

  by phoenixrising in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was watching some of the may jw cult broadcast.

  this push to be a movie studio and other things makes this cult seem like something else entirely from what i grew up in.

  they really are trying to use anything they can to hook suckers into being cult members.

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  They really are trying to use anything they can to hook suckers into being cult members.

  Well, there's something that hasn't changed!
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  Reasonable question - looking for reasonable responses!

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. current

  why are taxi firms still operating during a "deadly pandemic?".

  i was shopping yesterday and saw taxi after taxi picking people & their shopping up at the supermarket.

  none of the drivers or any of the passengers wore masks or gloves, nor did they keep any distance from each other - in or out of the car.. the drivers all helped to load the bags into the boots/trunks of their cars.taxi-drivers must be seriously at risk of catching/spreading covid 19...

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  As far as symptoms and mortality go, this is the normal flu under a different name

  67,000 US dead as of May 4.

  Trump's own administration projects 3000 US dead per day within a month:

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/may/04/coronavirus-us-live-trump-second-wave-deaths-cuomo-new-york-latest-news-updates

  So the death count will likely blow past 100,000 in the US in just a couple of weeks, and still not anywhere near the peak.

  I weep for the willful ignorance of people, whose selfish actions will prolong the crisis and cause hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths..