It's a very long time ago but I met NY in Hong Kong at her first meeting after being released. All were crowding around her. I had no idea. I seem to recall that her children secretly paid a bribe to finally get her out but that was never printed. Actually I went to dinner at a very wealthy Chinese jws place and was there when they recorded her story for the wt. Actually I think a gb member flew out to do the recording and to catch up with Stanely Jones etc, It is sooo long ago I forget the details but they were all great people and happliy accepted me as just a rank and file. Why did she do it? Stubborness and that strange human trait that serving a god gives you a licence to do what ever is necessary....
doofdaddy
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Nancy Yuen China 1953- 23 years jail for refusing to stop door to door! Why did she do it?
by Witness 007 inthe new communist government were reasonable.
you can preach in your halls just not "door to door.
" missionary stanley jones and other non chinese stoped...but encouraged the chinese brothers to continue.
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Should Each Governing Body Member Drink Ayahuasca?
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ommnrjemq.
maybe a good dose of ayahuasca might give the gb some answers for what to do in thier: end hasn't come yet dilemma?.
perhaps it would be too scarry for them, the pressure too great to maintain the delusion they are in, in other words they would have a very bad trip fighting all those demonz they got banging around in thier psychie..
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Yeah I see your point. and I agree that the people in Peru seem to be very comforting and experienced. Trust is a big issue. Well done on letting that shit out. I write. And yes a glass or two of good red helps get down into those dark hidden corners where the rats live but too much booze and we may join the rats living permenantly in the past. The main thing is you had the bravery to confront your past head on without meds etc. The true "warrior's" journey.
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Oldest Temple in Turkey
by Satanus ingobekli tepe, an archeological dig in turkey, not far from the syrian border.
it has been unearthed seriously, since 1994 by german archeologists.
it is a site that predates stonehenge by 6000 yrs, and the pyramids by 7000yrs, they say.
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"On the tv program, they said the missing heads suggested representation of nondivinity."
On the other hand(no pun intended) the roof structure could have been made of timber which sat on these pillars. Quite a nice depiction of the godhead with each pillar representing differing facets....
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Should Each Governing Body Member Drink Ayahuasca?
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ommnrjemq.
maybe a good dose of ayahuasca might give the gb some answers for what to do in thier: end hasn't come yet dilemma?.
perhaps it would be too scarry for them, the pressure too great to maintain the delusion they are in, in other words they would have a very bad trip fighting all those demonz they got banging around in thier psychie..
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doofdaddy
Yeah maybe shortcut but also extremely dangerous without proper guidance. I know of two deaths around aya and dmt (one a suicide). Agreed though that drugs can be a key e.g. how many famous painters and writers drank alcohol, used heroin? It's just a razor's edge that can go either way while self reflection is also extremey powerful just (possibly) slower.
One thought came to mind, I wonder if dmt takes you to Jung's Collective Unconscious, the godhead if you like?
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Fantasy "Forbidden Fruit" Ex-Witness Party
by CaptainSchmideo inif you could get all willing participants on this board together in one area for a party, and told them to bring favorite music, food, movies, and dressed in certain fashion, all of which has been discouraged or outright banned either by the wts or by their flunkies (do, co, elders, busybodies in the hall, etc.
), what would you bring?.
i would bring:.
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doofdaddy
I reckon I would be over in the steam room drinking champagne and playing naked charades of a jw meeting
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Should Each Governing Body Member Drink Ayahuasca?
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ommnrjemq.
maybe a good dose of ayahuasca might give the gb some answers for what to do in thier: end hasn't come yet dilemma?.
perhaps it would be too scarry for them, the pressure too great to maintain the delusion they are in, in other words they would have a very bad trip fighting all those demonz they got banging around in thier psychie..
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LOL! Yeah I agree. I reckon when his brother died he snapped and never got over it. The funny thing is he had that Indian moralising thing going on talking against sex outside of marriage but(as usual) it came out after his death that he had a very long standing affair with the wife of his best friend! I find gurus entertaining but not in the way they prefer...
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Music Upon Your Exit
by RAYZORBLADE ini know this topic has been touched upon from time to time.
i haven't been on here regularly in many years, but i know what it is like for many; or those that are on their way of exiting the organization.. what songs do you recall or remember during your exodus from the wtbts ??.
i left mentally in the late autumn of 1983; apparently (i don't know officially...but does it really matter?
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Should Each Governing Body Member Drink Ayahuasca?
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ommnrjemq.
maybe a good dose of ayahuasca might give the gb some answers for what to do in thier: end hasn't come yet dilemma?.
perhaps it would be too scarry for them, the pressure too great to maintain the delusion they are in, in other words they would have a very bad trip fighting all those demonz they got banging around in thier psychie..
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Interesting fellow Krisnamurti. Allegedly he was extremely lonely as a kid so the theosophists stole his brother away(the same as they did to K) to live in England with him. Later the bro got sick but K was to do a speaking tour and was told by the leaders that the spirits told them he wouldn't die while K was away. He did. K went into a kind of trance/shock (which continued occasionally during his life) and came out declaring there are no gods no gurus, just us. He quit being a guru but ironically spent the rest of his life being a....guru. He only wore Saville Row handmade clothing and only a Rolls Royce to take him about but yes he had some form of "enlightenment" which he shared.
Totally off topic!
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Should Each Governing Body Member Drink Ayahuasca?
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ommnrjemq.
maybe a good dose of ayahuasca might give the gb some answers for what to do in thier: end hasn't come yet dilemma?.
perhaps it would be too scarry for them, the pressure too great to maintain the delusion they are in, in other words they would have a very bad trip fighting all those demonz they got banging around in thier psychie..
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LOL the machine elves (for me they were ants) are a distraction. My take on DMT is that it is a shortcut, a rocket ship to what can be discerned through meditation or self scrutiny. Very Western to have it all as quick as possible. On the other hand it forced me to deal with my morbid (jw) fear of death.
As far as the GB I agree with S, they would disband, give all their crap away and perform loving acts of kindness for the poor and dispossessed. No ego.
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Old People Should Hurry Up and Die - says the New Japanese Finance Minister
by fulltimestudent inthe newish japanese government is conservative in bent, and its finance minister recently raised eyebrows with the above statement.
japan, as you may know, is a rapidly aging society as the long falling birthrate bites into the demographics.. here's how the english guardian reports this tale:.
let elderly people 'hurry up and die', says japanese ministertaro aso says he would refuse end-of-life care and would 'feel bad' knowing treatment was paid for by government.
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doofdaddy
I remember in the 80's the watchtower singing the praises of the Japanese work ethic, something along the lines of ants. All non thinking and obedient with massive growth among jws. Well they might have been right as this is the mindset of ants. Once something loses value it is destroyed and consumed. Anyone remember Soylent Green? I'm sure he would be keen to make old people into corn chips! Seriously my area of Australia is filling up with young Japanese wanting to escape the mad politics and polluted environment of Japan. A country in crisis.