Watchtower= Three legged stool: 1914,1919, and GB/Faithful slave concept. Knock 1914 out, it's doomed. So friends, we've got to keep this going for awhile. Maybe the younger generation will not study our history and find out we are a false prophet.
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!
by C0ntr013r infirst of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.
but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.
so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .
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ISFJ-T, Born in. Same, Ex-JW or pre. -
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The Christian God is Stupid
by berrygerry ini do not clearly understand mainstream christian ideology, but i think that wt is a variation thereof.. wt teaches that god made adam and eve perfect, but that another one of god's perfect creatures, tricked eve into disobedience, thereby condemning adam, eve, and all of their offspring into a life of misery as a result.
this is because satan out-thought god, and essentially cornered god into this "legal challenge" that god had never foreseen.. that, to me, is one stupid god..
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Isaiah, 55:8 - "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says Yahweh."
Isaiah, 55:9 - "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
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Email to Royal Commission on Lies
by LevelThePlayingField ini wrote this email today to the royal commission:.
dear royal commission:.
i am writing you to tell you that many of the jehovah's witnesses who have testified have lied to the commission under oath, and they have done so with ease because of what they have been taught through their publications.
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feeling of hopelessness and fear
by 060702015 indo you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.
do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.
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Jhine
Vinman , did you not ever worry about the blood issue , what if a loved one had an accident or illness that needed blood ? Or did something that required you to shun them
I was so zealous, that I would of died from refusing blood. Never worried. If it really was God's will I would of allowed even family to die without blood. I thank God nothing happened. Imagine allowing your child ro die and then discovering TTATT a couple of years later. So sick! I had shunned my two brothers for nearly 20 years! We just now have been reconnecting. Thankfully they forgive me. They knew i was under mind control. I was the Jehu of witnesses. I still have the same zeal. But now it is directed in a positive way. Against the false prophet, the Watchtower. And I have maintained my relationship with Yahweh and Christ.
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feeling of hopelessness and fear
by 060702015 indo you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.
do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.
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Totally understand. As long as I thought it was the truth, I loved everything. The meetings, assemblies, service, serving as an elder, you name it. I would enjoy every aspect of it. I loved even listening to the music prelude at conventions. Read every publication since 1983. The reason I was happy is because when you truly believe it is the truth and you are truly dedicated to Jehovah, and not the organization, it is not a burden. True it was tiring. I remember being happy when a meeting was cancelled. But overall, very happy. I must admit, I have always felt God's presence even though my zeal was not based on accurate knowledge. And people like myself hung out with people who felt similar. The ones who were not happy, were the ones who did not keep busy in activities. That is the folly. With hindsight, you can see why the organization wanted to run people into the ground. It keeps the flock in the pen. No thought of leaving or desire to research things beyond the Watchtower. So much of the happiness was based on that. The weak felt depressed and left out. The answer? Do more!!! So 9 months ago when I accidentally learned TTATT, everything went black. But now, things are improving. It was a real test. But I have not abandoned Yahweh and His Christ . I am starting to understand Christ's words: "So if the Son sets you free, you are truly free."- John 8:36 -
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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I have many friends at work that are not JW's and are not ex-Jw's . What I have seen here is that ex-Jw's are the most screwed up people I have ever met. I include myself. That cult is sick! Critical thinking, critical thinking, critical thinking. I need to use critical thinking to study your critical thinking. My critical thinking is higher than your critical thinking because you believe in God, thus no critical thinking. But you are an atheist thus no critical thinking. Crap! I just don't experience this at work. Common sense rules. Not a fanatical study of critical thinking. Wow!! Yes, I am convinced that the "condition has become worse than the first". Of course, the Watchtower knew that because they are a cult. Signing out everybody. I know, no great loss.
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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I looked up this book. I read many reviews and studies on it today. I wholeheartedly agree with SimonSays. Amen -
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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Zimunzucz:
Those are really good thoughts. I will definately check out the book you mentioned. The Five Gospels.
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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Viviane
I'm sorry. But I don't even know who you are. My point was simply do unto others as you want them to do unto you. Personally, I would never express or imply to an atheist or any non-Christian religious person, that they are delusional, lack critical thinking skills, etc. I simply feel sorry for some new comers here. Some express perhaps that Christ set them free. We give them a warm welcome and say we are their friends and then as time passes, we bash them directly and indirectly. I know. I experienced it. Not saying everyone does it. But we do see it. Many may agree with me, but don't say anything. We come here to heal, not to preach. When I see a post about pro Bible or pro Christianity, I don't feel that is always preaching. I think those individuals are just wanting like minded people to respond. If the post opens up condemning atheists, I don't agree with that either.