I woke up myself by accident. I wanted to learn about our history and our "wonderful spiritual heritage". Needless to say, that was the end. The cover ups and the lies. Not to mention the absolute craziness of Russell and Rutherford. But with hind sight, i realize that while i was "asleep", i was being awakened by small nudges. I left English and went to sign language for four years. It angered me to have about 22 of 40 publishers pioneering but no one in service. The haughtiness of so many learning the language and thinking they were a special people irritated me as well. When i served as an elder i received many "nudges". Being yelled at in the "backroom" and just sitting there in a room of cowardly elders who would not stand up for me. Being removed but never told why and no counsel or scriptures given. Jealous elders just because you put your heart and soul into your talks. Overlapping generations. Russell and his associates being "the messenger" spoken by Malachi. Reading the organization's history was just the alarm screaming. I had already had been "nudged" many times. I am sure that this scenario has happened to many of us.
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Did an EX-JW wake you up to TTATT or did you put the effort to wake up yourself?
by John Aquila inhow many of us were woken up by some apostate yelling false prophets at a convention?.
how many of us were woken up by someone holding a sign and yelling, what happened to 1975.
how many of us were coerced to investigate the wt because some ex-jw pulled up a bunch of old watchtowers magazines and told us to read the false predictions?.
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If Jehovah's Witnesses were a cereal, what would they be?
by Zoos incult flakes?.
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(welcome to the height of intellectual thread topics.
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Disaster Kit
by vinman ini was at walmart when i seen a disaster survival kit.
then something came to my mind.
remember all the instructions given about having these kits?
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Some congregations had mock drills? Really?
Yes, in my area I heard of one who did just that.
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Disaster Kit
by vinman ini was at walmart when i seen a disaster survival kit.
then something came to my mind.
remember all the instructions given about having these kits?
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I was at Walmart when i seen a disaster survival kit. Then something came to my mind. Remember all the instructions given about having these kits? Some congregations even had mock drills. Local needs were given about this. Lists of service groups were handed out telling you where to meet if possible. It is really sad to contemplate why they do that. What are your thoughts? -
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TTATT is a process, and it’s going to take time. There are no Short-Cuts.
by John Aquila ini talked to a close friend that served with me as an elder for a few years.
he allowed me about an hour to explain why 607 is not the correct date for the destruction of ancient jerusalem.
i showed him all the scriptures needed and i showed him the wt magazines that proved it.
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Yes, I don't understand those type of people mentioned in the OP. I told one of my friends all the things I learned about the organization and said I can prove it. He listened attentively and understood where I was coming from. The next day at the KH, he was talking to my wife about someone who was coming into the"truth". I just don't get it. It is like they are sleep walking in the Watchtower. -
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Who Qualifies for TTATT?
by John Aquila inwhen i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.
ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.
all his family are jws.
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I agree with you John, except for that happy 20 year old. He is young. Happy or not, he needs to know. I was "happy", but sure would not want to waste another second in the cult. I believe approach is everything. If you are a believer in the scriptures, and you now have a understanding of what your role is in God's timetable, and you can explain and prove their is no true religion, and explain what "truth" is in the scriptures, then I feel you are in a good position to help. If you do not know who you are dealing with, it can destroy them. You can't just take "the truth" away from a believer in scripture, and offer him nothing. In fact, I am trying to appeal to my mom in this manner. Explaining to her that you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Telling her how much I have learned since I left.
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We're not trying to convert you
by jws inrecently i saw a link to an article from the st. petersburg times (one of these links on the side of this forum to sometimes old articles).
it was an article about jws and their preaching work.
imo, middle to favorable.. but the one thing was from a door where the jws are saying they're not here to convert anyone, they just want to share a scripture.. what sort of bs is this?
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I remember making this statement myself and then getting back into the car and saying to my service partner: "Well we are trying to convert them, but we can't let them know that." -
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Anybody else consternated about Jesus?
by runForever ini've read the bible as many of you have.
a lot of it makes sense.
i just can't believe.
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I have to say, no he did not actually come from heaven in a literal sense. This is one of many links that talk about this. For me, understanding this concept has given me a greater appreciation for Yahweh and Christ and has helped me to understand certain Bible passages.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-11-2015 WT Study (EXPECTATION)
by blondie inblondies highlights from the10-11-2015 wt study (august 15, 2015), pages (14-18) .
for pictures see this link.
opening comments.
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I never thought the Watchtower said this about 1799! The Harp of God: Par. 408
