i received the following explanation in favor of the date of 607 bce.
accepted comments on the points at issue.. .
conclusion.
Lars when are you going to address the missing million skeletons at barnea kadesh ???
Take it to another thread. Lars' drivel is bad enough when it's loosely relevant.
Maybe God out of his anger removed every trace of their existence.
So... 'God did a magic thing'.
Seriously, just stop.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
still thinking:
You may not want to waste your time on it Jeffro
Correct.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
AwareBeing:
the vast universe operates in an orderly fashion, except when... a star explodes, a tiger eats a small animal or a world ruler declares war
No, that's just stupid. There is nothing objectively 'bad' about 'a star exploding', a 'tiger eating a small animal', or even a 'world ruler declaring war'. 'The universe' doesn't 'assign' any 'positive' or 'negative' values to those or any other events. Each of those things can subjectively be seen as negative or positive in certain contexts.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
Did you find ANYTHING interesting in the video?
Yes. The channel the video is posted on promotes the person's low-quality website, which, to my complete lack of surprise, solicits donations via paypal.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
still thinking:
Jeffro...can I ask? did you watch the video?
I did. (Sorry to disappoint you. )
I want my 16:26 back.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
The difficulty with consciousness is that nobody really knows what it is.
Though a precise definition may be difficult to agree on, that doesn't mean we have no idea at all what consciousness is. All available evidence suggests that consciousness always requires a mechanism. In humans, and other self-aware creatures on this planet, it is based on a complex electro-chemical neural network. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_correlates_of_consciousness.
It's plausible that there might be other mechanisms in the universe that manifest as consciousness, but there is no good reason to suggest that it operates anywhere without such a mechanism. Whether consciousness can manifest independently of such a mechanism has no evidentiary basis, and even if such a thing is possible at all, any similarity to philosophical guesswork would be entirely co-incidental.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
I am not talking about a god here...just consciousness. We have it...so why not? What makes us special? If you are going to compare consciousness to leprechauns and fairies I think it may be you that is making the big leap.
I didn't say there is necessarily anything special about 'us' at all. I did already say that it is entirely plausible that consciousness exists elsewhere in the universe, beyond humans and other Earth animals that demonstrate self-awareness. However, as also stated previously, there is no reasonable basis for the presumption that everything is 'conscious'.
I didn't compare consciousness to 'leprechauns and fairies'. I compared consciousness in the absence of any mechanism for producing it to other fictional concepts.
In general, whimsical notions that 'the universe is one' stem from the human sense of community (a faculty possessed to varying degrees by various social/herd/pack animals). Concluding that 'the universe' possesses such properties because humans do is particularly naive. It's just as 'likely' that 'the universe' is more 'in tune' with solitary species - of course that's just as (ir)rational as any other suggestion. Because humans are a lot smaller than planets, as far as people are concerned Earth is a vast region suitable for sustaining life - this is 'reasonably convenient' (though much of the planet is hostile to life, as is much of the other life). But overall, the predominant feature of the universe is that it is solitary, harsh and destructive to life.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
It seems more arrogant to me to believe that we are so special that only we posses this thing we call consciousness.
You've made the mistake that saying consciousness isn't everywhere is the same as saying it's only here. It's entirely plausible that intelligence and consciousness exist elsewhere throughout the universe.
AND it is simply an IDEA based on science.
The idea is very loosely based on science, heavily influenced by pseudo-scientific philosophy.
Why could it not exist everwhere in one form or another?
Sure, why not? Why couldn't there be leprechauns and fairies outside my window? There just aren't, that's why. Thought is a process based on chemical reactions. Even if there were some alternative loosely analogous concept of 'consciousness' at the quantum level (though there is little reason to believe so), it still wouldn't be the same as 'thought' in the human sense.
The common thread to these kind of pseudo-scientific 'ideas' is they aim for a romanticised 'greater purpose'.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
This theory is that it all originated from something so small. Everything was once one small 'thing'.
Nope. That angle is wrong too. See previous comments about string theory. It is entirely plausible that reactions at the very small scale might influence thoughts in some unpredictable way, kind of like how thousands of mice might influence the tides, but there is no direct relationship, nor any reason to accept that there is any underlying 'consciousness' with some romantic notion that it 'unites the universe'.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
Pseudo-science. The notion that because the universe is really big, that it is also 'conscious' has no reasonable basis. Of course it's true that we only really observe a very small portion of what could actually be called reality, but that doesn't automatically imbue the unseen things with intelligence, consciousness, or purpose. 'Consciousness' is great in that it's useful for organisms that happen to possess it, but it's supremely arrogant to imagine that because humans have that faculty, that consciousness is therefore implicitly present everywhere in the universe. 'Consciousness' (as well as the 'subconscious') exists as a result of certain chemical reactions, and the processes are orders of magnitude away from string theory. String theory and quantum physics are very interesting and very complex, but 'thought' is about neurochemistry, not string theory.
