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The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. bible
https://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.

rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.

while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.
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JWs and Christmas
by Rnadomchris83 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have been lurking around here for years.

i'm not a witness, but my in-laws are.

my wife grew up in it but was never baptized.
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Do JW's believe that TWO nations were created?
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. bible
one at pentecost 33 c.e.

or were they "overlapping nations?".

w02 8/1 p. 12 par.
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Jesus the Maintenance Man
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i posted on another thread what i thought was an interesting angle, seldom discussed regarding the role of god/logos in holding creation together and its maintenance.

most moderns think of the universe as a self-perpetuating machine, but ancients looked to the god/s to ensure order continued and fertility returned year after year.

we read, throughout the ot, of jews performing prescribed ritual and festivals to ensure god's blessing and providence.
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Jesus Christ Will Arrive Within The Next Four Minutes! (parody)
by Nathan Natas in
1. social
2. humour
yes, you read that correctly!.

jesus h. christ will arrive within the next four minutes!

in fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!.
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Annual Report
by St George of England in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

george.
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Is the Watchtower Ultimately a Creation of Fallen Angels?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a watchtower in ceremonial magical tradition is a tutelary spirit of one of the four cardinal points or quarters (east, south, west and north).

in many magical traditions, they are understood to be enochian angels... originating with the enochian tradition of john dee, a version of it was popularized by the hermetic order of the golden dawn, which became hugely influential in modern western esotericism, including wicca.

the watchtowers are invoked during the ritual of casting a magic circle.. .
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Elders, Jews and Dead Bunnies
by KalebOutWest in
1. jw
2. experiences
i thought i would give my personal experience on who i am, how i came into the world of watchtower, why i left, etc.

this would explain a lot about the answers i give and why they don't directly reflect my personal convictions (like a normal person--and i do mean that literally, kinda).

i cannot put everything here, but i can start bit by bit.. when i was 17 years old, my mother was on her third marriage and kinda starting her fourth (as she was dating this surfer dude-like guy who wasn't even 5 years older than me).
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Angelic Singing
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. bible
jo 38:7. when the morning stars sang togetherand all the sons of god shouted for joy?.

this passage and others apparently reveal a belief among some jewish communities that angels sang.

the natural corollary is that angels had a language, and that language would naturally be supposed to be a superior one.
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God or Satan?
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. bible
the theme of my recent comment in another thread demonstrated how in some circles the 'word/logos' had become understood to be implied within ot texts that mention an angel or destroyer (in the case of ex 12).

the comment got no response so i'll repost it now as a springboard for a further observation:.

here's another example of the extreme personification of the logos/word from the wisdom of solomon (approx.