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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.
Jeffro

Can you post these corrections in the comment's section on Youtube?
I'll have to go back and match the relevant corrections to the specific videos. Maybe later today.
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.
Jeffro

BTW...it looks like this series drew Scholar's attention. Scholar is Neil McFadzen?
Yeah.
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.
Jeffro

Video 11 says there was an 18-month siege on Jerusalem. However, the siege was actually about 30 months (31 including an Adar II in 589), beginning in 590. Jeremiah used Tishri-based dating for Judaean kings (this can be proved mathematically [thanks to AnnOMaly for convincing me a while back to stop being lazy and actually prove it]), so 'the tenth month' (Teveth) of Zedekiah’s ninth year begins at the end of 590 BCE.
Also, the period of 587 to 518 is actually exactly 70 years of fasting rather than approximate as stated in the video. The fasts were in the fifth and seventh months (destruction of the temple, and death of Gedaliah, respectively), but the statement about the 70 years (Zechariah 7:1-4) was in the ninth month. That was after the fasts in the 70th year, so they were actually asking if they would also hold the fasts in the 71st year.
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.
Jeffro

I really wanted to have a former elder I know narrate for me who has experience in public speaking, rather than myself.
I understand. I've thought about making a video about 607. I thought about it for about 0.02 seconds. I don't like the sound of my voice on recordings.
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.
Jeffro

Siege on Jerusalem began in 598, not 599 as stated in video 6.
I also noticed a typo of "nations" as "natations". I think it was in video 5.
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.
Jeffro

Londo, please stop saying "Bablyonian" instead of "Babylonian"!!
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.
Jeffro

Cold Steel:
Does anyone outside of the adventists believe that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C.?
No.
In fact, are the adventist sects united on this or is it just the Jehovah's Witnesses? I suspect if it's just the Society, it was done to justify the 1914 date. I don't know of any reputable scholars who think it happened in 607.
Other Bible Student groups also hold to Russell's teachings about 607 and 1914. However, Russell got his ideas from earlier Adventists.
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this is the main series playlist:.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

this is the accompanying video appendix:.
Jeffro

The Jews returned in 538. Josephus (Against Apion, Book I, Chapter 21) confirms that temple work began in the second year of Cyrus, and Ezra says it was in the second month of that year. The Jews were in their cities in the 7th month of the year before that. They therefore could not have returned in 537. See here.
Jerusalem was destroyed in 587, not 586. 586 is derived from Edwin Thiele, however 586 is not consistent with the relative timing of events in 598 and 597. Babylonian records of the same period confirm that 587 is correct. There is no need to say "587 or 586".
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Official: All Watchtower Brooklyn Properties Are Sold!!
by iclone in
1. jw
2. friends
Jeffro

St George of England:
Not sure what the problem is here, see the jw.org link above for the details.
The linked article says they sold a five-building complex. Those are not the only Brooklyn properties they own.
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I found something in Watchtower literature I can agree with.
by Indian Larry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i ran across this excerpt from studies in the scriptures vol iv.

in it russell rails on as to why you should not tie youreself to any organization.

in a way he unknowingly predicts how the watchtower would turn against real "truth seekers" in their own organization, (quite possible the only prediction he ever got correct) and then goes on to show how the deluded witness just can't see how they can have a relationship with christ without a earthly organization.. .
Jeffro

Studies in the Scriptures is probably considered 'apostate literature' now anyway.
DesirousOfChange:
But the New Light in the July 15 WT throws Chuck under the bus. No longer any connection with/to the F&DS. Just another Bible thumper with goofy ideas about pyramids.
Pity they're still stuck with that nutter, Rutherford.