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  A new start? Watchtower renaming at HQ Columbia Heights

  by Gorbatchov in

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  friends,.

  who was in any doubt that our jw believe is a marketing model, see this pictures of the still existing hq of jw at columbia heights.. earlier comments on jwn that something is going to change in the organisation, these comments are true.. in a few years we will not talk about the watchtower society, we wil talk about jw.org.

  i think the current leadership will make a transfer to a new start.

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  Violia:

  No, Steve I mean the literal expression JW, not Jehovah's witnesses, the words J and W.

  That is exactly what was on the banners in 1931. The letters - J & W.
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  Since leaving the truth, do you celebrate holidays, and does your participation in such bring you happiness?

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
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  i ask this respectfully, and do so after watching a favorite show of mine's season opener which had a new years storyline.

  hollywood tends to make movies and television show episodes centered around holiday themes appear warm and blissful.

  while i'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, i can't deny my curiosity about ex-jws that do celebrate.

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  Stand for Pure Worship:

  Jeffro, you know Jethro?

  'Jeffro' is a not uncommon nickname for Jeffrey, and has an entirely different etymology to Jethro.

  I thought it was ironic anyway and not a slight towards you.

  It might have been ironic if I'd misspelled my username. You should probably get a better understanding of what "irony" means.

  Doing calls yesterday, a sister who is a pioneer raised the question about what do worldly people get out of holidays, especially Christmas. None of us in the car group were able to answer as it's all foreign to us. One brother who came into the truth later in life couldn't answer either and his wife celebrates with his sons and extended family.

  You're all either lying (masking envy) or a bit simple. There's nothing fundamentally unusual about people experiencing enjoyment, and no good reason why even someone who doesn't celebrate a particular holiday wouldn't understand why others enjoy celebrations generically.
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  The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.

  on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?

  not exactly working out for you guys.

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  Stand for Pure Worship:

  One thing that surprised me, was a couple posts which attempted to compare the growth of other religions with Jehovah's Witnesses, and I don't think that's a fair comparison.

  So... that's not a fair comparison, but you imagine there's some logic in comparing a corporation run by donations and slave labour with former members who for the most part aren't remotely interested in the 'competition' you've dreamed up??
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  Since leaving the truth, do you celebrate holidays, and does your participation in such bring you happiness?

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask this respectfully, and do so after watching a favorite show of mine's season opener which had a new years storyline.

  hollywood tends to make movies and television show episodes centered around holiday themes appear warm and blissful.

  while i'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, i can't deny my curiosity about ex-jws that do celebrate.

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  Stand for Pure Worship:

  Well, I'll be darned, someone with a name like Jeffro discovered my typo.

  However, can any of you say that the holidays you've celebrated, have left you with cherished memories? Did you have an unforgettable New Years? A Thanksgiving or Christmas that will bring a tear to your eye years from now? A Valentines Day that made you forget about life's irritations if even momentarily?

  Are you seriously that naive?! Most people have warm memories of such occasions. Certainly more so than any JW meeting or convention.

  Any thoughts about trying to defend your religion's contradictions of their own beliefs with the new translation of Jeremiah 29:10? Or is that all too hard?
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  Since leaving the truth, do you celebrate holidays, and does your participation in such bring you happiness?

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask this respectfully, and do so after watching a favorite show of mine's season opener which had a new years storyline.

  hollywood tends to make movies and television show episodes centered around holiday themes appear warm and blissful.

  while i'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, i can't deny my curiosity about ex-jws that do celebrate.

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  Stand for Pure Worship:

  Since leaving the truth, do you celebrity holidays, and does your participation in such bring you happiness?

  The leading question is predicated on a false premise, in regard to the use of the subjective use of the words "truth" and "happiness". And "celebrity" isn't a verb.

  While I'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, I can't deny my curiosity about ex-JWs that do celebrate. Do the holidays do anything for you?

  Are you genuinely that naive? If you have ever experienced any occasion where family and friends have enjoyed time together, then you should know that such times are pleasant, irrespective of the 'reason'.

  JakeM2012:

  SFpw, wow, at least an attempt to be humbly inquisitive. Great.

  If only that were the case. There's nothing humble about the question at all. It's supposed to elicit some ethereal drivel about 'true' 'happiness'.
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  A new start? Watchtower renaming at HQ Columbia Heights

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  friends,.

  who was in any doubt that our jw believe is a marketing model, see this pictures of the still existing hq of jw at columbia heights.. earlier comments on jwn that something is going to change in the organisation, these comments are true.. in a few years we will not talk about the watchtower society, we wil talk about jw.org.

  i think the current leadership will make a transfer to a new start.

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  Stand for Pure Worship:

  For one thing they have nothing to hide or distance themselves from.

  Hilarious.
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  Question for JW apologists...

  by Jeffro in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new new world translation translates jeremiah 29:10 as follows:.

  10 for this is what jehovah says, when 70 years at babylon are ful?lled, i will turn my attention to you, and i will make good my promise by bringing you back to this place.. the official watch tower society teaching is that by the end of the 70 years, the jews were back in judea, and that their actual arrival in judea marks the end of the "70 years".

  *** si p. 85 par.

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  Some more weird ones

  by Hortensia in

  1. watchtower
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  a friend, former jw like me, wants me to ask you a question.

  she remembers as a child that her jw parents believed that satan could come up through any perfectly round hole and cause you to sin.

  for instance, if her father built a fire ring at the beach, he purposely put a corner on it so satan couldn't catch them.

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  Hortensia:

  My neighbors include new agers, I AMers, St. Germaine believers, UFOers, believers in Telos, redneck Tea Partiers who want to secede from California and survivalists. And that's just a small sampling.

  Move.
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  Is JW Baptism the Only Valid Baptism?

  by Cold Steel in

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  what is the watchtower bible and tract societys view on baptism?

  is it absolutely essential that one be baptized to gain eternal life in gods kingdom?.

  and can they tell you who you can and cant baptize?.

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  Getting baptized may be of some benefit if it's a particularly hot day. Other than that, there's really no point.
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  Satan thrown to earth "about" 1914?

  by wearewatchingyouman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i'm thumbing through the new "silver sword" and i notice that in the appendix under "message of the bible" that it says, "about 1914 jesus hurls the serpent satan to the earth...." i can't remeber ever hearing the word "about" and 1914 placed together before in regards to this event.

  are there any jwapologists, or anyone else for that matter, who have an explanation for this?.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/appendix-b/message-of-the-bible/.

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  minimus:

  Yes, by March 26, 1918 he was hurled to the earth and he was actually thrown out Oct. 1 or 2 1914 meaning it took a long time for Satan to finally get down here!

  I like the comical picture that paints. (Maybe it took so long because of the interconnecting flights from the Pleiades cluster to Earth.)

  But they don't actually say he was thrown out on Oct 1/2 1914. They say 'war broke out' then, and then 'some time' after that but before March 26 1918, Satan was actually 'thrown out'. In reality, none of it makes any sense whatsoever, so it's probably best not to overthink it.