i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
scholar:
Nonsense. The 70 years only ended when the Jews had returned with the seventh month in 537 BCE which ended the Exile by means of the Decree of Cyrus. The date 538 BCE is bogus as you well know.
No part of that statement is true. Unless you meant to put a colon after "Nonsense".
i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
False, the Bible clearly and unequivocally describes the 70 years as a Period of Exile or as many historians describe this period of Jewish History as the 'Exilic period'. Refer Rainer Albertz.Biblical texts that describe the 70 years as exilic are the following: Jer. 25:11-12; 29:10 2 Chron 36:20-23; Dan 9:1-19.
No, doofus. Historians date the initial exile to early 597 BCE and the destruction of Jerusalem to 587 BCE (with some Christian sources preferring 586). None of the passages mentions 70 years of exile
i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
For starters, The Mysterious Numbers of the Hebrew Kings, Edwin Thiele; Handbook of Biblical Chronology, Jack Finegan; The Chronology of the Old Testament, Floyd Nelson Jones.
Ho hum... no argumentation provided and nothing new here. Only one of those is a recent source, and he inconsistently applies dating systems for the reigns of Jehoiakim and Zedekiah (giving Zedekiah a 13-month accession period) resulting in his error of 586.
i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
Nope. The seventy years was a period of the Exile in Babylon, Desolation of the Land of Judah and Servitude to Babylon beginning with the Fall of Jerusalem in 607 BCE. and ending with the Return in 537 BCE. Nice and easy!!!
You're such a doofus. Of course the Bible never mentions 70 years of exile at all. But it's worse than that. According to the Bible, attention would be given to the Jews' return after 70 years had ended. But according to pseudo-scholar and other JWs, the Jews have already returned when the 70 years ends (even though most of the Jews remained in Babylon and the 'return' in 538 BCE was actually just permission to rebuild the temple), so turning attention to their return after they've arrived is just stupid.
i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
Hahaha once again a response bereft of any argumentation whatsoever. If you have any sources presenting argumentation for 586, just provide them. However, I am yet to see any argument for 586 that is compatible with a correct understanding of the relevant dating systems. And obviously 607 has been thoroughly debunked to the point that it’s beyond a joke.
hellow.
i am studying some material about jehovah’s witness – and i wonder why they think, that the 144.000 from rev 7 should be in heaven, and the great multitude should be on earth.
can anyone give me some argument for this opinion?.
JWs completely misrepresent the 144,000, from who they are to what they do and when. Whilst there is no reason to believe it is actually a real group, the Bible presents quite a different view of the 144,000 to that of JWs. For example, the Bible says it is the ‘great crowd’ who rule as kings and priests for 1,000 years, whereas the 144,000 rule as kings (but not priests) forever.
i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
Kelley959’s method, using twelve 360-day years and seven 390-day years per Metonic cycle, results in a period that is 110 days too long per cycle.
i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
scholar:
Your methodology for the attempt to expose the calculation of 1914 CE and the 607/586/587 debacle is inapplicable. Celebrated WT scholars in WT publications have shown the difference between calender years such as the Julian and Gregorian and a 'prophetic year' used in the Bible of 360 days of 12 months of 30 days each.. Refer to All Scripture Is Inspired Of God And beneficial, 1963, 1990, p.282, pars. 22,23.
🤦♂️ Kelley959's method (not 'methodology') is indeed invalid, as is yours. The 'explanation' in All Scripture is also wrong, since Babylon didn't actually have a 360 day year. It is just a simplification.
scholar JW emeritus
You misspelled 'meritless'.
i hope this is in the right area.
i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.
for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.
Kelley959:
The Jewish Calendar has 12 months at 30 days, so 360 days a year.
No, they didn't. The Jewish calendar, based on the Babylonian calendar, did not actually have 360 days per year. That is just a simplification. They had 353, 354 or 355 days in a common year or 383, 384 or 385 days in years with an additional month.
But every 19 year cycle (cycle is important in this), there are seven extra months added, so seven years have a "leap month" for lack of a better terminology.
The regular Metonic cycle was only adopted about 100 years after the Neo-Babylonian period. During the Neo-Babylonian period, the additional month was ad hoc based on astronomical observations.
So take 360 days times 19 years gives you 6,840 days, plus add another 210 days to give you 7,050 days per cycle.
No. Just, no.
Then for fun, I put in October 1, 1975 and subtracted 935,049. WOAH! Sunday, September 9, 586!I thought that Fred Franz at one point told a group in a special program, "Something happened in 1975, but we're not telling."
Not only is your approach not valid, but Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 BCE, not 586.
