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  Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 or 568 BC?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody know something about vat 4956?.

  nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?

  any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .

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  Jeffro

  scholiar:

  Three sources and not one as you wrongly assert were used as described in the footnote.
  

  That's a flat out lie. The footnote in question (19) lists software, not any identification of the 'researchers'. The software used is not a source, it is just a tool. (Worse still is that one of the supposed 'sources' is just a 'date converter' and nothing to with actual analysis of the tablet or astronomy 🤣.) There isn't even any evidence that they even used the software correctly.

  Further, the researchers are not identified but if that troubles you then you can always write a letter seeking the information that you require.

  Hahaha. I don't want JWs knocking at my door thank you.
  

  The articles provide a list of references which all have been correctly quoted in support of the article's viewpoint adhering to normal academic conventions recognizing that the sources have differing views on the matter.

  They try to give the appearance of being academic, but they don't provide the most important source for their claims. The sources they do cite either don't support the Watch Tower view at all, or are taken out of context; for example, Brown who says the planet names used in VAT 4956 are not ambiguous (Mesopotamian Planetary Astronomy—Astrology, pages 55–56)..
  
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  Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 or 568 BC?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody know something about vat 4956?.

  nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?

  any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .

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  scholar:

  The simple fact is that you do not like this research because it clearly provides solid proof for 607 BCE causing wt critics much angst.

  hahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂 my sides... that's just too much... and I thought you weren't a good comedian.
  
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  Vaccine Deaths

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. social
  2. current

  it is reported that in the usa, 30 people are dying per day after receiving the corona vaccine.

  anyone else hear about this?

  - article.

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  Jeffro

  DATA-DOG:

  I haven’t heard one rational discussion from any medical expert who just multiplies by 100 because of under reported deaths.

  Were you expecting to?
  

  We can’t use one extreme to justify another and discount deaths from the vaccines.

  The death rate from the COVID-19 vaccine in the United States is less than 0.0025%. To put it in perspective, the maternal mortality rate during child birth is 0.0174% in the US. So a woman giving birth is about 7 times more likely to die than a person dying from the COVID-19 vaccine.
  
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  Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 or 568 BC?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody know something about vat 4956?.

  nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?

  any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .

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  Jeffro

  'scholar':

  The very fact that there were researchers- plural indicates that there are others competent to make an assessment in this matter.

  "fact"? Nothing about the claim in the article indicates a "fact" about the "researchers". The 'researchers' could be Furuli (who may have had an assistant) or could just be some lads at 'Bethel' who were tasked with fudging some results to fit the Watch Tower Society's narrative.
  

  The WT has noted this fact with the appropriate methodology employed by these other experts so no dishonesty to hand.

  hahaha... 😂 the only citation anywhere near the claim about the anonymous 'researchers' is the name of a software program, with no identification of the 'researchers', their credentials (or even evidence of basic competency), or their affiliation with Watch Tower, nor is any evidence provided that supports the findings asserted... but okay then, since you say they followed the "appropriate methodology", this must mean I missed where they cited their sources identifying the researchers... feel free to enlighten us all as to the identity of these 'researchers'... 🤣 Worst of all, the article does provide some citations (some of whom are misrepresented, including Brown, Sack and Steele), so it's not that they weren't trying to give the appearance of the "appropriate methodology". So their failure to properly cite the identity of the key "researchers" for their claims is particularly suspect.
  
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  Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 or 568 BC?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody know something about vat 4956?.

  nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?

  any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .

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  Jeffro

  scholar:

  This is mere speculation on your part. LOL!

  No, doofus. I only indicated that it is highly likely, which is an entirely accurate assessment based on the fact that Furuli is the only known source for the claim. Of course, if the Watch Tower Society weren’t so dishonest, they would properly credit their alleged source.
  
  
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  Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 or 568 BC?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody know something about vat 4956?.

  nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?

  any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .

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  Jeffro

  Bobcat:

  This post (off site and, admittedly, somewhat long) shows how WT's 20 year difference in chronology shrinks to 18 years at the exile of the ten tribe kingdom, and then expands to 67 years at the split in the Jewish kingdom after Solomon.

  For a graphical representation of this, see https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/index/pure-worship-ezekiel-revisited/#Appendix3
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  Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 or 568 BC?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody know something about vat 4956?.

  nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?

  any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .

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  Jeffro

  St George of England:

  As I recall it was written by Rolf Furuli whose academic work has long been discredited.

  No writing credit is given in the Watchtower article, and there is no evidence that Furili wrote the article, but it is highly likely that the unnamed ‘researchers’ in the article alludes to Furuli.
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  Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 or 568 BC?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody know something about vat 4956?.

  nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?

  any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .

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  Jeffro

  Round and round we go…

  https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/watchtowers-2011-attempt/

  The Bible quite definitely does not support 607.

  https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/607-for-dummies/
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  Awake is back! India used in every illustration???

  by JWTom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as someone else noted.

  why is the new awake a setting in india in every illustration?.

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  Jeffro

  And it’s not just the illustrations. Page 14 gives some examples of “Jehovah” in a few different languages, which all happen to be from the subcontinent.
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  Awake Magazine - No Longer Being Printed?

  by JWTom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone made reference in another post that the awake magazine had ceased publication.

  maybe i missed it since i have not been on here as much in the last 6 months.

  is this true?

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  Jeffro

  Now that Awake! has resurfaced with the first issue for 2021, has anyone noticed that it seems decidedly specific to one country?