Posts by Jeffro

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

Anony Mous:

I will also note your intellectually dishonest quote of the statistics.

This was funny too. You falsely claim that my accurate juxtaposition (for humorous purposes) of comparable statistics of death rates was ‘intellectually dishonest’, then you go on to compare deaths from COVID in people under 18 with heart conditions in young people of unspecified age that occurred after (but not necessarily in all cases caused by) vaccination.

In case it’s not obvious, individuals should talk to their doctor about which vaccine is best for them or if they should not be vaccinated due to relevant risks.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

Anony Mous:

you are intentionally misreading the airborne pathogen route

That’s a straight up lie. Not sure what possible motivation I would have to intentionally do that, but it’s unsurprising you move to a personal attack when you don’t like what I say.

It may be the case that certain types of shared living make it more difficult to effectively isolate but at no point have I intentionally misled anyone. It remains the case that someone in such accommodation has breached the regulations to introduce the virus into the shared space.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

Anony Mous:

The Lancet is a strongly left-wing source

You think it matters to me whether a source is simply ‘left-wing’ or ‘right-wing’?🤣 There’s just as much left-wing nonsense out there as there is right-wing nonsense (and antivaxxers have traditionally been associated with left-leaning new age nut jobs). Regardless of your claim about the Lancet’s political leanings (which I have not verified), the Lancet does have a reputation for accurate scientific reporting though.

Anyway, the article suggests COVID might remain viable in the air for up to three hours, but this does not support the claim that people diligently isolated in their own homes would still get infected.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

It’s funny watching the cognitive dissonance of COVID conspiracists…

2% die after getting COVID: “they count unrelated deaths as COVID deaths!”

0.0008% die after a vaccination (including deaths not caused by the vaccine): “the vaccine kills people!”

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

Anony Mous:

COVID is an airborne pathogen

The virus can be suspended in droplets in the air for a short amount of time but not in the sense you are attempting to convey, as if someone would need a completely isolated air supply.

This puts the vaccine side effects of death in the first 6 months of this year at 12,000

As with many of your intellectually dishonest posts, this is incorrect. VAERS reports adverse effects experienced after vaccination, not merely caused by vaccination. It includes deaths as a result of conditions unrelated to the vaccine. It’s still a staggeringly small percentage of total vaccination numbers, and it is not a valid representation of deaths caused by the vaccines.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

FedUpJW:

How do you propose they breathe? Or are you saying they would have to have a completely self-contained air supply that was also isolated from any contamination from the air that surrounds the globe?

Come on, that’s not even a good straw man attack. COVID-19 isn’t an airborne virus in the manner implied.

It’s funny that certain people are so willing to accept an unverifiable anecdote about a self-assessment of diligent isolation.

The claim that ‘anyone with flu gets lumped in with COVID’ is obviously false because there are still flu statistics. Other posters have already provided information about why flu numbers were seasonally low, and the US is not currently in flu season.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

If someone literally isolated themselves so that they had no contact with anyone potentially infected, it would be physically impossible to contract the virus, even if they weren’t vaccinated. So either you, or the anecdotes you’re alluding to, are lying. It remains the case that it is the stupid people flouting regulations who massively increase the vectors for spreading the virus far beyond what would be the case of occasional inadvertent breaches.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

COVID keeps spreading because stupid people keep flouting regulations, as well as the more infectious Delta variant in recent months. That’s not to say that no regulations go beyond what is necessary. But reckless stupidity is more harmful than being overly cautious. Also, the US flu season hasn’t begun yet.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

It’s fundamentally obvious that a virus transmitted by exposure to other people won’t be transmitted to people who aren’t near other people (or recently contaminated surfaces). It’s interesting that you feel the need to frame that as a ‘belief’. Isolation will indeed prevent people contracting viruses that are spread by exposure to other people, which also reduces the total number of vectors for infection in a given community, but aside from that, it is not the case that people are otherwise ‘prevented’ from getting the flu, though vaccination for the flu would go a long way to preventing flu symptoms, particularly if they’re unavoidably exposed to stupid people who flout regulations because they don’t understand how viruses or vaccines work.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

minimus:

So if you take the jab and you socially distance, you really shouldn’t get the flu or possibly a cold.

A COVID vaccination won’t stop you getting the flu, which is why there is a separate flu vaccine, and neither would prevent you getting a cold. A person who is vaccinated for either condition may still be infected with the corresponding virus but would generally experience only very mild symptoms, if any. Vaccines don’t prevent a person being exposed to a virus, so it is asinine to expect that a vaccinated person can’t be infected at all.

But obviously if someone is isolated from other people, they won’t get any virus that is contracted by exposure to other people.