for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
Anony Mous:
Yes, because their core business is administering vaccines. Everyone says that VAERS doesn’t verify the reports.
So you take a small part of the source material that you like, ignore the rest, and then run with the garbage interpretations from fringe nonsense sites.
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
Anony Mous:
Ah, so if you don’t agree with analysis of the data (which you can do yourself) it must be pseudoscientific.
No, the reputation of the ('childrenshealthdefense') site was already established prior to the article you're referencing.
This is the degree of quality reporting we're dealing with from that site (from the page you linked, for their 'weekly summary'):
It also says:14,003 total adverse events, including 866 rated as serious and 14 reported deaths. Two of the nine deaths were suicides.
The average age of death was 75.
Though this shows that the majority of people who die after a vaccine are elderly (and therefore considerably more likely to have died from other causes), the reporting is still inaccurate, because the data linked does not indicate 75 as the average age, but says 35.8% of the people who died were 75 or older, and only 2.85% were under 45 (with the age of a further 37.72% not reported).
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
Yeah, funny. But I get mainly pseudoscience results for the first link anyway. I had already since found the precisionvaccinations site (not a pseudoscience source), which simply reports the numbers, and also clearly states that the reported figures are not indications that the vaccines caused the deaths. It makes no claim that anything underhanded happened, and certainly makes no claim that 'the Biden admin' made the change. The different figures are consistent with the scenario I postulated about a database error (though that is not necessarily the reason).
https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated
Your second site is a known pseudoscience source.
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
you are implying I lied about the 12000 reports and the Biden admin shaving off 6000 overnight
Not necessarily. As I suggested previously, you (or a source you're obliquely referencing) could have just inadvertently used incorrect search criteria. Probably can't classify the claim that 'Biden admin shaving off 6000' as anything other than a lie, since you couldn't possibly know whether it was the CDC or a higher government level that changed that data (if at all), though it could be someone else's lie that you're just parroting. It's also possible that there was a database error at the source that was corrected - for example, the 12,313 figure is suspiciously close to doubling the number reported on 19 July and then adding new reports between 19-21 July.
This was relatively well reported in news outlets
For example??? You haven't provided any source for these claims.
As of 2:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website modified the number of VAERS reports related to COVID-19 vaccination deaths from 12,313 to 6,079
Is that a quote from somewhere?? Where?
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
minimus:
I haven’t lied
You lied when you misrepresented what I said, and then you lied about who I supposedly think misrepresents me. Ad hominem nonsense is par for the course on this forum though.
Back on topic, to summarise:
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
minimus:
Everyone seems to misrepresent you.
In this thread, just you and Anony Mous (though up to this point, you're the only one I had specifically called out as misrepresenting my position on something). But if you want to lie to try to get others on side, that’s up to you.
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
minimus:
Having said that, last year when the “flu season “ was supposed to be around, no one talked about having the flu. It was all about Covid. If you can’t accept that, there’s not much more to add.
Ah, well, if people were discussing a more impactful event more than a less notable one, that’s pretty much case closed. My mistake. 🤦♂️
It seems that anything you see that disagrees with your thinking is junk.
So you agree with the specific Israeli pseudoscience that I called “junk”, or you’re just misrepresenting what I said (again)?
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
Haha. You seek out the most fringe nonsense you can find, and then get unnecessarily concerned about it! Why do that to yourself?!
“bestnewshere”… yeah, sounds totally legit. 🤦♂️
I'm just throwing the info out there regardless whether it goes against your belief system
😂 it’s junk pseudoscience, irrespective of anyone’s “belief system”. Using that term in reference to actual scientific consensus sounds like you’re projecting.
Just to be clear, this nonsense goes far beyond the misleading claims Anony Mous is peddling.
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
LV101:
Here's something to check out: Pfizer/BioNTech Covid Vaccines "Destroy Every System of the Human Body" warns Israeli healthy experts
Obviously false given the number of people in Australia who have received the Pfizer vaccine.
But how about a source anyway? A cursory search for this claim reveals conspiracy nutter websites. Got something peer reviewed?
for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
minimus:
Anyway, nobody hardly is saying they got the flu or a cold.
Already answered. But basically, it's not currently flu season in the US, and last flu season, there were still hundreds of cases of flu reported per month, despite distancing measures in place due to COVID. Flu vaccines are also available (maybe not yet in the US until the flu season starts, but they were readily available in Australia from March onwards), independent of the COVID vaccine. If measures are in place to reduce the spread of a more infectious virus, it is to be expected that you would also see fewer cases of a less infectious virus spread by similar means.
