Jeffro

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  Can a person order a free bible through the JWs?

  by jwundubbed in

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  i was researching the easiest bible to read (which the jw bible is not) and the best way to buy one online at low cost and it got me thinking.

  the jw.org is doing videos and has a website.

  have they joined the order-online phenomenon that is going on in the world today?

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  Jeffro

  You can always register your interest in a free* home Bible study. 😂
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  Ralph Walls implausible 2021 Convention field service story

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. beliefs

  another implausible field service story told by ralph walls at the 2021 convention.

  get ready for this unrealistic, stupid, dull and boring, made up fiction that is presented at this assembly.. some years ago ( tells a story but doesn't know exact date ), a brother ( doesn't give his name ) in mexico ( doesn't name the town) from the rurals, dressed in a very simple garb ( to show he was not showy ) knocked at the door of a palatial mansion.

  ( a very rich ''worldly'' person must live here ).

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  This sounds like one of those generic Protestant preaching tales - like the one about the lady who preaches to someone dangerous but he doesn’t attack her because of ‘the men (angels) standing behind her’, or the more generic ones about someone praying just before preachers of denomination xyz just happen to turn up.
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  Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

  because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

  now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

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  Anony Mous:

  Yes, because their core business is administering vaccines. Everyone says that VAERS doesn’t verify the reports.

  So you take a small part of the source material that you like, ignore the rest, and then run with the garbage interpretations from fringe nonsense sites.
  
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  Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

  because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

  now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

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  Anony Mous:

  Ah, so if you don’t agree with analysis of the data (which you can do yourself) it must be pseudoscientific.

  No, the reputation of the ('childrenshealthdefense') site was already established prior to the article you're referencing.

  This is the degree of quality reporting we're dealing with from that site (from the page you linked, for their 'weekly summary'):

  14,003 total adverse events, including 866 rated as serious and 14 reported deaths. Two of the nine deaths were suicides.

  It also says:

  The average age of death was 75.

  Though this shows that the majority of people who die after a vaccine are elderly (and therefore considerably more likely to have died from other causes), the reporting is still inaccurate, because the data linked does not indicate 75 as the average age, but says 35.8% of the people who died were 75 or older, and only 2.85% were under 45 (with the age of a further 37.72% not reported).
  
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  Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

  because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

  now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

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  Jeffro

  Yeah, funny. But I get mainly pseudoscience results for the first link anyway. I had already since found the precisionvaccinations site (not a pseudoscience source), which simply reports the numbers, and also clearly states that the reported figures are not indications that the vaccines caused the deaths. It makes no claim that anything underhanded happened, and certainly makes no claim that 'the Biden admin' made the change. The different figures are consistent with the scenario I postulated about a database error (though that is not necessarily the reason).

  https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated
  

  Your second site is a known pseudoscience source.
  
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  Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

  because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

  now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

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  Anony Mous:

  you are implying I lied about the 12000 reports and the Biden admin shaving off 6000 overnight

  Not necessarily. As I suggested previously, you (or a source you're obliquely referencing) could have just inadvertently used incorrect search criteria. Probably can't classify the claim that 'Biden admin shaving off 6000' as anything other than a lie, since you couldn't possibly know whether it was the CDC or a higher government level that changed that data (if at all), though it could be someone else's lie that you're just parroting. It's also possible that there was a database error at the source that was corrected - for example, the 12,313 figure is suspiciously close to doubling the number reported on 19 July and then adding new reports between 19-21 July.
  

  This was relatively well reported in news outlets

  For example??? You haven't provided any source for these claims.

  As of 2:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website modified the number of VAERS reports related to COVID-19 vaccination deaths from 12,313 to 6,079

  Is that a quote from somewhere?? Where?
  
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  Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

  because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

  now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

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  minimus:

  I haven’t lied

  You lied when you misrepresented what I said, and then you lied about who I supposedly think misrepresents me. Ad hominem nonsense is par for the course on this forum though.

  Back on topic, to summarise:

  • Focus hasn't been on the flu because COVID has been more serious, and measures for preventing COVID are more effective at preventing flu
  • Though fewer people have gotten the flu due to those measures, some people have still gotten the flu, and separate flu vaccines exist
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  Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

  because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

  now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

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  minimus:

  Everyone seems to misrepresent you.

  In this thread, just you and Anony Mous (though up to this point, you're the only one I had specifically called out as misrepresenting my position on something). But if you want to lie to try to get others on side, that’s up to you.
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  Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

  because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

  now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

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  minimus:

  Having said that, last year when the “flu season “ was supposed to be around, no one talked about having the flu. It was all about Covid. If you can’t accept that, there’s not much more to add.

  Ah, well, if people were discussing a more impactful event more than a less notable one, that’s pretty much case closed. My mistake. 🤦‍♂️

  It seems that anything you see that disagrees with your thinking is junk.

  So you agree with the specific Israeli pseudoscience that I called “junk”, or you’re just misrepresenting what I said (again)?
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  Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

  because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

  now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

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  Jeffro

  Haha. You seek out the most fringe nonsense you can find, and then get unnecessarily concerned about it! Why do that to yourself?!

  “bestnewshere”… yeah, sounds totally legit. 🤦‍♂️

  I'm just throwing the info out there regardless whether it goes against your belief system

  😂 it’s junk pseudoscience, irrespective of anyone’s “belief system”. Using that term in reference to actual scientific consensus sounds like you’re projecting.

  Just to be clear, this nonsense goes far beyond the misleading claims Anony Mous is peddling.