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  What kind of literary device is this?

  by EdenOne in

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  i know there's a name for this technique but i need a name, nonetheless.. if i say to my audience: apostates are horrible, satanic, dirty, sinners, mentally diseased etc ... all hateful traits.

  and then i say: person a is an apostate.

  then my audience will associate all the traits previously associated with "apostate" with person a. but i can say: i never said person a was horrible, satanic, dirty, mentally diseased etc.

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  Jeffro

  BluesBrother

  Noticeably, the WTS denigrates ex members, so called apostates, but never answers our legitimate concerns. I guess they can’t.

  Trying to respond to objections draws too much attention to them. But see also Streisand Effect.
  
  
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  What kind of literary device is this?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there's a name for this technique but i need a name, nonetheless.. if i say to my audience: apostates are horrible, satanic, dirty, sinners, mentally diseased etc ... all hateful traits.

  and then i say: person a is an apostate.

  then my audience will associate all the traits previously associated with "apostate" with person a. but i can say: i never said person a was horrible, satanic, dirty, mentally diseased etc.

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  Jeffro

  The premises given in the original post are:

  Premise 1 - All B are C

  Premise 2 - A is B

  Implied conclusion - (A is C)

  As such, the syllogism is logically valid, but either or both premises may be rejected as false.

  The specific example given is plainly ad hominem, there are elements of poisoning the well and it is a thought terminating cliche. The term apostate is also being used as a euphemism.

  But, if the person goes on to claim that they did not say ‘A is C’, they are stupid, lying or both, because they have contradicted their premises. See also weasel words, non-denial denial, spin.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  Vidqun:

  After all, the average (IFR) death rate of Covid is a mere 0.26% of those infected

  Setting aside the fact that that figure is from CDC estimates based on various scenarios rather than an observation, that still would work out to a lot of people. And it’s still several hundred times worse than the rate of deaths following vaccination (including deaths not caused by the vaccine).
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  Listener:

  Is a drunk person putting others at risk if they are not at home and not driving?

  What about a mentally challenged person, or a drug taker, whether prescribed or not. When they pose a serious risk because of their proven social misbehaviour something can be done about it but usually not until they've already caused damage.
  
  What if the unvaccinated person is prepared to take extra precautions so as not to be any more of a risk than a vaccinated person and what exactly would be required? Who are they a risk to, another unvaccinated person or a vaccinated person?

  It isn't really the purpose of analogies to cover every possible scenario. Nor does something being analogous automatically mean that both things are equally valid. It's just a metaphor for quickly comparing ideas. Most readers with a fairly basic education would understand the intent of the comparison the doctor was making.
  
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  Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

  i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

  how many jabs have you had?.

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  Jeffro

  But Bill Gates knows exactly where you are now, and is personally tracking your every move!

  Yeah. It's called a mobile (or 'cell') phone.

  
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  Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

  i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

  how many jabs have you had?.

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  Jeffro

  I have heard from quite a few people that it is common to have some mild symptoms only after the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine, but only after the second dose of the Pfizer.

  I've had Pfizer, both doses, very mild symptoms after second dose, no side effects beyond the day after.

  Still no autism and can't receive or transmit 5G.
  
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  As soon as you present some. Pretty much everything in your previous post is false or misleading.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  Why is it that the sites you people link to as ‘evidence’ are already recognised as pseudoscience nutter sites? This time, ZeroHedge, operated out of Bulgaria.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  DATA-DOG:

  Dr. Leanna Wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… They have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk. Besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had SARS cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the MRNA shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry Big Pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  The doctor’s analogy is logically sound, though that doesn’t automatically mean the conclusion applies to the different situation, so it could be considered a hasty generalisation.

  Comparing an analogy involving unvaccinated people with people who have previously been infected is ‘shifting the goalposts’.

  Comparison with the unrelated JW analogy that happens to mention drivers’ licences is an equivocation fallacy.
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  Really Proud to be a Jehovahs-Witness, I am a student these days and Saving ALOT thanks to Student Wow Deals

  by Studentwowdeals in

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  hey guys, i just wanted to let any felow students know there there is a website just for us to save money :) since the covid i have been buying everything online through them it i have saved alot of money thanks student wow deals.

  basically you sign up for free thats it.

  hope this helps some people while they are studying!

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  Jeffro

  It’s nothing to do with JWs, they’re just quoting the forum’s domain name in their tacky spiel to try to sound relevant.