Posts by Jeffro
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7Ezekiel's Temple Vision Changed
by IWant2Leave init was nauseating to listen to the book study the past week on zoom.
old timers, and elders who have served for decades took the change of the vision in ezekiel chapter 40 thru 48 without blinking an eye.
just drank it down.
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Those members who passed away
by Gorb inwho of those passed away jwd/jwn members, do we think of??.
oompah and the lady from australia, are there more??.
g..
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Jeffro
Black Sheep:
I forget her user name. As she got older she was forgetting her password and needed our help logging in, so I hope she will forgive me for forgetting her user name.
Do you mean "mouthy"?
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JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church
by joe134cd injust saw the following you tube video.
it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.
if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.
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Jeffro
LV101:
It's impressive but as far as I know some strange beliefs - probably not more so than WT but I don't know. I'd assumed they were similar to JW religion
JWs is an offshoot from Adventism (parallel development to the SDAs in the late 19th century, both based on Millerism). Though their beliefs have diverged in various areas, their core eschatology, including their interpretations of Daniel, is Adventism.
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JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church
by joe134cd injust saw the following you tube video.
it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.
if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.
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Jeffro
LV101:
SDA's have been leading the pack for few yrs. now.
More than a few. The memberships were similar until something happened to the JW membership around 1975. I wonder what that could have been? 😂
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JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church
by joe134cd injust saw the following you tube video.
it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.
if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.
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Jeffro
Slimboyfat:
Even with that, JW Memorial attendance is similar to Adventist membership numbers at around the 20 million mark, which may be a fairer comparison than the stricter JW “publisher” count.
JW memorial attendance includes people who go along to be polite, to avoid being shunned, or to otherwise keep the peace, so I’m not sure it’s necessarily a great comparison with the ostensibly similar figures for SDAs, where the 20 million refers to baptised members.
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JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church
by joe134cd injust saw the following you tube video.
it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.
if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.
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Jeffro
And JWs are significantly smaller than Seventh day Adventists
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New Approach to Discussing Deity of Christ with JW's
by Sea Breeze in5:27; 9:59; 18:22; jn.
9:48; [21:8]; 24:47; jn.
21:12, 17;] jn.
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Jeffro
Scholarly consensus around the life of Jesus is fairly thin, and the only strong scholarly agreement is that he was baptised by John, was an itinerant preacher of some description, and was executed by the Romans. There is no broad scholarly agreement for the 'resurrection' or any other of the anecdotes about Jesus in the 'gospels'.
Proponents of stories about Jesus (and other biblical tales) like to cite things like 'the criterion of embarrassment' - the idea that stories that include negative details are more likely to be true because invented stories would (supposedly) paint characters in the best possible light. However, this fails because it is readily apparent that a writer could include such details in their stories for exactly that reason.
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New Approach to Discussing Deity of Christ with JW's
by Sea Breeze in5:27; 9:59; 18:22; jn.
9:48; [21:8]; 24:47; jn.
21:12, 17;] jn.
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Jeffro
There's little reason to believe that Jesus said anything attributed to him in the 'gospels', which appeared a generation after his death. In Paul's writings, he seems to know almost nothing about Jesus apart from the 'ransom', almost as though most details about Jesus' life were made up later. -
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New Approach to Discussing Deity of Christ with JW's
by Sea Breeze in5:27; 9:59; 18:22; jn.
9:48; [21:8]; 24:47; jn.
21:12, 17;] jn.
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Jeffro
Maybe start with the 'holy spirit'...
JW: The holy spirit is God's active force, his power in action.
Non-JW: Would Jews and early Christians know about God's power?
JW: Of course!
Non-JW: [Acts 19:2]
JW: Oh... um....
Non-JW: Paul also said that the holy spirit isn't the same thing as God's power: [2 Corinthians 6:6, 7]
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New Approach to Discussing Deity of Christ with JW's
by Sea Breeze in5:27; 9:59; 18:22; jn.
9:48; [21:8]; 24:47; jn.
21:12, 17;] jn.
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Jeffro
Or a delusion of grandeur. But I’m guessing that isn’t a viable alternative for JWs either.