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  Moses, Pharaoh and the Exodus Fairytale

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  exodus 7. .

  new king james version.

  moses before pharaoh.

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  Sea Breeze:

  They worshipped in the wilderness just like Moses stated. How is that a lie?

  Nice attempt at obfuscation. Exodus 5:1, 3:

  Afterward, Moses and Aaron went in and said to Pharʹaoh: “This is what Jehovah the God of Israel says, ‘Send my people away so that they may celebrate a festival to me in the wilderness.’” ... But they said: “The God of the Hebrews has communicated with us. Please, we want to make a three-day journey into the wilderness and sacrifice to Jehovah our God; otherwise, he will strike us with disease or with the sword.”
  

  Saying they were only making a 3 day journey is a lie, because the intention was to leave permanently.
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  Are JW's Sins Forgiven? NO - (Says the Watchtower)

  by Sea Breeze in

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  anyone who has been of this forum in the past few days has seen doubting thomas (an active jw) refuse over and over to provide even one scripture that can show how a jw can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant as described in mt.

  26: 27-28. yet, he claims to believe in the blood covering of jesus while at the same time personally rejecting the new covenant "for forgiveness of sins".

  his contradictory claims are common among jw's.

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  asp59:

  The 144000 are not priest or Kings yet.

  The Bible doesn’t say the ‘144,000’ ever rule as priests. It only says they rule as kings, forever. It is, according to Revelation, the ‘great crowd’ from ‘all nations’ who rule as kings and priests during the ‘1,000 years’.

  What Does the Bible Really Teach about the 144,000?
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  Why do Anti-Jws refuse to answer questions- and ignore our answers?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  denial..

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  Jeffro

  😂
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  Moses, Pharaoh and the Exodus Fairytale

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  exodus 7. .

  new king james version.

  moses before pharaoh.

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  Jeffro

  Why should the conveniently anonymous pharaoh believe anything Moses says? According to Exodus 5:1, 3, Moses lied from the outset.
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  Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

  that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

  maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

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  Jeffro

  🤦‍♂️
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  Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

  by DoubtingThomas in

  1. watchtower
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  i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

  that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

  maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

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  Jeffro

  DoubtingThomas:

  The fact that that atheists have ONLY this short life- means that they should be ELSEWHERE!

  You haven’t demonstrated any basis whatsoever for the notion that you have any advantage over ‘atheists’. But if we pretend for a moment that your god exists, then if it is worthy of any respect whatsoever, then it would reward the intellectual honesty of not believing claims without evidence. But if it is instead a capricious psychopath, then you have no advantage anyway.
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  Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

  by DoubtingThomas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

  that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

  maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

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  Jeffro

  Haha. Not only can you not actually identify what is supposedly dishonest about my thinking, but you are totally incapable of presenting any evidence for your claim to know a god exists.
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  Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

  by DoubtingThomas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

  that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

  maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

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  Jeffro

  DoubtingThomas:

  Well you described it as 'tedios', and refused to answer my question, on which an intelligent conversation hinged.

  Your ‘question’ was rhetorical nonsense based on a false premise. Your use of loaded terms like ‘accident’ does not indicate a desire for intelligent conversation at all. Just the typical creationist cliches. Calling an alternative to your view an ‘accident’ is not evidence of your position, and posing it as the only alternative is a false dichotomy.

  You still have not provided any justification for your claim to “know” that any god exists (or even what a god is), let alone the Christian god. Ultimately, you will try to claim an infinite regress requiring some initial sentient ‘creator’ that doesn’t require a creator itself, which is special pleading.

  Back in reality, we know that organic compounds come from simpler non-living compounds without any need for a magical infinitely complex entity that contradicts your own premise.
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  Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

  by DoubtingThomas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

  that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

  maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

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  Jeffro

  DoubtingThomas:

  Jeffro, no one has asked me to.

  That is a lie. I directly asked how you ‘know’ God is real, and you provided a lame argument from incredulity about ‘an accident of nature’ and then a tedious remark about ‘looking at the sky’. If people ridicule your ‘reasons’, provide better reasons. If you don’t have a better reason than ‘I can’t think of any alternative other than God’, then you have no good reason at all.
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  Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

  by DoubtingThomas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

  that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

  maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

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  Jeffro

  It’s funny how the Bible explicitly tells Christians to always be willing to give a reason for their faith, but when asked, no compelling reasons were given and they resort to insults instead.