The book of Daniel is all about the period immediately before it was written in the 2nd century BCE. Specifically religious oppression under Antiochus IV Epiphanes with reference to Babylon as a metaphor. It also includes exaggerated end times claims typical of the apocalyptic genre. The inherent Jewish bias that their god was (already) sovereign is unsurprising.
Posts by Jeffro
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540Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
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540
Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
The fact that you think I lose in this instance is funny enough but the fact that you think itâs âonce againâ is priceless.
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540
Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
Haha. Not at all impressed by your confirmation bias from an evangelical. The fact remains that the actual content of Daniel doesnât support your position.
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540
Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
Haha. Youâre a joke, âscholarâ. Unable to make any actual direct refutation from the Bible itself, you insist, âno you just havenât read this entire other subjective book that I wonât bother providing any detail from.â Suffice to say you disagree with many of Waltkeâs theological opinions so youâre cherry picking anyway.
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540
Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
âscholarâ:
The fact that the book of Daniel has 'God's Kingdom as its main theme
This is a good example of Watch Tower Society lies regurgitated by âscholarâ. Is âGodâs kingdomâ really the âmain themeâ of Daniel?
Chapters 4, 5 (quoting chapter 4) and 6 of Daniel allude to God already having a kingdom (all purportedly during the âseven timesâ), without any mention of it permanently replacing other kingdoms. Chapters 8, 9 and 11 of Daniel make no mention of Godâs kingdom, and chapters 1, 3, 10 and 12 do not contain the word âkingdomâ at all.
There are actually only two verses (2:44 and 7:14) in Daniel that refer to God setting up a future kingdom. Hardly the bookâs âmain themeâ.
See also Danielâs dreams and visions
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
Jammer:
You people are a bunch of fucking fools.
See also Matthew 5:22.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
Fisherman:
Rev19:11,14:14,Psalms:45:44 describes the rider.
Those verses (though you probably mean Psalm 45:4) say nothing about the rider of the horse at Revelation 6:2, and the rider of the horse in that verse is described differently to the one described in chapter 19, with different weapons and headwear and quite different purposes. (There also is not universal agreement among Christians that the rider of the horse at Revelation 6:2 is Jesus.)
The literary device and poetic language of the Bible is for believers.
Claiming that only 'believers' may interpret 'literary devices and poetry' in the Bible is plainly irrational. 'Believers' do not all agree on the meaning of the content, and many - including yourself - are completely willing to distort or ignore the plain reading of Bible passages to make it seem more consistent with events that 'just haven't happened yet', apparently unconcerned with the original authors' actual intent.
I see you reject the Bible so this discussion is not for you since you cannot even think in terms of assuming the Bible is true.
That is an especially asinine argument. Firstly, it is a false dichotomy to suggest that someone rejects 'the Bible', as if to say that everything in 'the Bible' is true or everything in 'the Bible' is false, whereas in reality the Bible contains a mixture of myth, superstition, poetry and history presented in a theological context. Secondly, different groups of Christians don't even agree on which books should be included in 'the Bible' or how to interpret them.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
Fisherman:
Your logic is based on the premise that the Bible is false but the premise in this discussion is that the Bible is true so your conclusions are based on a false premise relating to this discussion. You need to take a logic course.
Nope. I already also explained how youâre wrong in the context of assuming it is true.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jeffro
Fisherman:
It is not
Wrong
Thatâs some âscholarâ level ârefutationâ there đ¤Śââď¸