wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
'scholar':
False, Daniel on the 8th day of Nisan, in the 15th year (19 March 590 BCE) of King Nebuchadnezzer is now contemplating the fulfilment of Jeremiah's prophecy about the Fall of Jerusalem and the beginning of the foretold 70 years with King Zedekiah's rebellion against King Nebuchadnezzar who invades Judah for the third time followed by his siege of Jerusalem and its later Fall in 607 BCE per date stamp in 2 Ki. 25:1-2.
Huh? Trust 'scholar' to entirely miss the point. đ¤Śââď¸
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Speaking of dates, 'scholar', do you agree with the Watch Tower Society that the siege against Jerusalem prior to its destruction lasted 18 months, or with me and Ezekiel that it lasted 30 months?
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Christian source supports traditional Christian interpretation. Call the press! (And his first line of 'evidence' is that Daniel 'predicts' future events and is therefore magical. đ¤Śââď¸)
Other examples of deception in the 'evidence' is the 'support' from the inclusion of Daniel in the Septuagint, though the old version was not completed until about 100 BCE, and the later version not until the 2nd century CE. Also trotted out is the claim that 'Daniel is in the Dead Sea Scrolls', though the earliest parts of Daniel among those copies is dated to the late 2nd century BCE (i.e. around 100 BCE), with most of them even later.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
On the 8th day of Nisan, in the 15th year of Nebuchadnezzar, I, Jeffro, was sitting by the Euphrates River, and behold, a vision of 'scholar' saying something stupid.
Can't argue with date stamps. đ¤Śââď¸
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
'scholar':
date stamped nine times with clear twelve statements of a future application
You keep repeating this nonsense over and over again as if you genuinely don't understand that someone can write something referring to an earlier date. The only bona fide thing approaching 'date-stamping' as to when Daniel was written is the fact that it refers to events that are agreed to have occurred during the Seleucid period.
there is mention on a wikipedia article that there was a 2006 revision of the nwt.
is this true?
what differences are there?
Disillusioned JW:
The name Jesus (Iesous in Greek; Yeshua in Hebrew) was a very common Jewish name during the time that Jesus Christ lived on Earth (if he ever was a historical person) and is simply a variation of the name Yoshua/Joshua (which in turn is a contracted form of the name Yehoshua),
Itâs not a coincidence. Not only is it a very common Jewish name, but Joshua (Yeshua), the first priest to officiate at the the temple following the return from exile, was analogous to the anticipated âSproutâ. So it would have been especially convenient to either take advantage of another person being named Joshua (Jesus), or even just to say that was his name after the fact (quietly setting aside that his name was also supposed to be Emmanuel, or maybe David).
the expression "jehovah god" has always seemed strange to me.
even when i was a jw, i found the term awkward, and never used it myself.
both words are nouns intended to be synonyms of each other, unless the name "jehovah" is being used as an adjective, which is also weird.
But it wasnât just because you canât create new threads yourself. It was because you were checking out my history because of a perceived dispute in a different thread.
scene: the new world, any minute now.... billy bastard, an aborted fetus is resurrected and immediately dies because he is outside the womb of a birthing person.. repeat ad infinitum.
If only there were a more convenient word that suitably describes more than 99% of people with wombs⌠đ¤
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
I suppose itâs fun to muse about such ideas, but itâs just that it doesnât meet any standard of evidence. Proof would require a verifiable record with specific non-trivial details in advance of the events along with a method of verification that the events actually occurred as described (not possible over this forum). But even if you could establish that you can reliably predict near future events at a rate better than chance taking into account educated guesses, that still wouldnât prove whether the explanation is block universe or messages from god or that youâre just really intuitive.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
I should add that neither of the âpredictionsâ are particularly amazing. A person on skates might fall over. A police car might pass a bus. Certainly not anything that would qualify as reliable evidence of ESP or anything similar. (Now, if it were that you were sitting at home and envisioned a skater falling over and later went somewhere where there was not a reasonable expectation of seeing skaters, but nevertheless saw a skater fall over, that might be somewhat more impressive though still not conclusive.) None of what is described sounds any better than guessing, and there is no evidence of any experimental controls at all nor any method of verification.
