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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Kosenen:
The WT misses the truth that the prophesied 1260 days/42 months/time, times and half a time must occur first. And the two prophets of Revelation 11 have to appear first and accomplish their mission during 3 and half years.
All of these periods, all equal to 3.5 years, were the period from the Jewish revolt in 66CE until Jerusalem’s destruction in 70CE. Christians expected various supernatural things to happen after that, within a generation of Jesus’ death. They were wrong, and nutters have been making up alternative interpretations ever since.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
Jeffro

Godlyman:
which I will build upon in my future posts
Or don’t.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
Jeffro

Godlyman:
So, are we all in agreement that the WTS is "not" the faithful and discreet slave as they claim to be? If so, then who really is?
False dichotomy.
As far as the purpose of the parable, the ‘slave’ (setting aside the endorsement of slavey) referred to each individual Christian awaiting Jesus’ return (expected within a generation of his death). Their expectations were wrong and everyone relevant to the original purpose of the parable is long dead.
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

🤦‍♂️
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Fisherman:
For example, a couple of years ago a new method of interpreting prophecy was explained
No, it wasn’t a ‘new method of Bible study’ as if they made some brilliant discovery. They just reduced their reliance on the practice introduced by Rutherford (borrowed from other Protestant groups) of ‘types and antitypes’.
JW are not pretending or putting on a show, they are convinced.
Whether they’re convinced or not, they’re still wrong.
349
Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
Jeffro

You wouldn’t need to. They have the burden of proof. There is no evidence that the ‘faithful slave’ story is anything but a parable.
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

🤦‍♂️
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Kosenen:
How else would the scripture speak about captains and sailors looking at its destruction from a distance?
🙄 Compare Matthew 4:8.
Descriptions in Revelation are explicitly metaphorical but you insist a literal interpretation. But when a story in Matthew is presented as literal, it is freely accepted as metaphor (or a ‘vision’). 🤦‍♂️ Unless you’re a flat earther as well. 😂
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Kosenen:
why don't you just look at the arguments I present on my website.
Because you’re making up nonsense that you imagine makes Revelation relevant to the present era.
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Fisherman:
It is not Rome because the great tribulation and Armageddon did not happen and neither did Rome suffer the same fate as BTG.
This kind of irrational thinking is why religions survive. ‘Believers’ aren’t really interested in the actual intent of the Bible authors. They are interested in what keeps the myth ‘relevant’. The obvious intended meaning failed (e.g. Rome wasn’t destroyed as expected)? Fine, just replace it with an unverifiable assertion. A Bible ‘prophecy’ explicitly failed (e. g. Tyre will never be rebuilt or found)? Fine, just ignore the inconvenient verses altogether. It’s really very tedious.