the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
Fisherman:
You don’t get it. If JW claim a sign validates 1914. It is written in stone. And that’s that.
😂 it’s hard to satirise these guys when they say things like that themselves. All of their nutty beliefs are ‘set in stone’ only until they arbitrarily change it to something completely different. And then the fact that what they previously taught as ‘truth’ was never actually true is conveniently ignored.
the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
Fisherman:
The great tribulation must now come and validate JW.
😂 The ‘great tribulation’ came and went in 66-70 CE. JWs can’t even get right the basic sequence that Jesus’ ‘presence’ is explicitly described as happening after the ‘great tribulation’. So there is no hope for them, in every sense of the word.
the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
Fisherman:
Generation is still tethered to 1914 and and so is the climax of Jesus’s presence, the GT, and the preaching work. And most important, the kingdom is in place since 1914.
Aside from the fact their beliefs are entirely wrong, Fishermen is, for once, correct in that the JWs are as stuck with 1914 as they ever were. 1914 has been spruiked right up until 2022 in their literature.
the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
Fisherman:
Not at all to JW. No second coming or second presence.They really are heavy on tedious semantics 😂. Of course, JWs do believe Jesus’ first coming/presence/parousia was in the first century (though they get the years of his birth, ministry and death wrong). So obviously their incorrect beliefs about his coming/presence/parousia in
the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
TD:
The Proclaimers book says the change was made in 1944 for some strange reason. Since then it's become a piece of "tribal wisdom" in xJW circles.
The Watch Tower Society can’t be trusted with reporting their own history. 🤦♂️ Not really surprising though. Their 2014 effort at glossing over their history is even more thin on the subject and doesn’t suggest any specific year for the change. Their 1974 attempt suggested the change was made in 1943. But actually searching their old literature shows their official histories to be obviously wrong.
the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
The fact that Jesus’ coming/presence in the Bible explicitly follows the ‘great tribulation’ still seems to elude JWs. In reality, the ‘great tribulation’ culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70CE and Jesus was expected to return shortly thereafter, within a generation of his ‘ministry’. They were wrong and that’s all.
the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
Vanderhoven7:
I wonder when the last mention was made of the 1874 second coming.
The latest explicit reference to Jesus' coming in 1874 that I've found is from Prophecy (1929), page 65:
The Scriptural proof is that the second presence of the Lord Jesus Christ began in 1874 A.D.
But it seems that it was actually changed at least as early as 1931 in Rutherford's The Kingdom (1931), page 57:
The 1 June 1931 issue of The Watch Tower (page 166) also refers to "the second coming of the Lord in 1914".In 1914 the Lord Jesus came the second time, and in 1918 began to
gather together his faithful followers.
Where did the claim come from that it was only changed after Rutherford's death??
the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
Fisherman:
1914 is scripturally possible as JW claim. So at the very least, it is arguable.
No, it is in fact completely debunked, even from the perspective of accepting the Bible as an accurate religious text. Every aspect of the claim, from the illogical mangling of what the Bible says about Babylon’s 70 years and the separate exile, to the errant numerology incorrectly associating the ‘gentile times’ with an unrelated period in Daniel, to the misrepresentation of Neo-Babylonian history (for which we have continuous records of every year of the established history), to the fraudulent revisionism of what the Bible Students expected would happen in 1914. All completely wrong.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
Fisherman:
No hard evidence could convince the Jews that Jesus is the Messiah.
Certainly not if the supposed genealogy in Matthew is to be believed 😂. Compare Matthew 1:11-12 and Jeremiah 22:28-30. Little wonder the alternative genealogy in Luke removed mention of Jeconiah (aka Jehoiachin). See also here.
the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
The year 1914, therefore, marks the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, the King of glory.(This was already correctly indicated on the Jehovah’s Witnesses and 1914 page but got missed in the Pure Worship review, which has been fixed.)
