Posts by Jeffro

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

FedUpJW:

How do you propose they breathe? Or are you saying they would have to have a completely self-contained air supply that was also isolated from any contamination from the air that surrounds the globe?

Come on, that’s not even a good straw man attack. COVID-19 isn’t an airborne virus in the manner implied.

It’s funny that certain people are so willing to accept an unverifiable anecdote about a self-assessment of diligent isolation.

The claim that ‘anyone with flu gets lumped in with COVID’ is obviously false because there are still flu statistics. Other posters have already provided information about why flu numbers were seasonally low, and the US is not currently in flu season.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

If someone literally isolated themselves so that they had no contact with anyone potentially infected, it would be physically impossible to contract the virus, even if they weren’t vaccinated. So either you, or the anecdotes you’re alluding to, are lying. It remains the case that it is the stupid people flouting regulations who massively increase the vectors for spreading the virus far beyond what would be the case of occasional inadvertent breaches.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

COVID keeps spreading because stupid people keep flouting regulations, as well as the more infectious Delta variant in recent months. That’s not to say that no regulations go beyond what is necessary. But reckless stupidity is more harmful than being overly cautious. Also, the US flu season hasn’t begun yet.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

It’s fundamentally obvious that a virus transmitted by exposure to other people won’t be transmitted to people who aren’t near other people (or recently contaminated surfaces). It’s interesting that you feel the need to frame that as a ‘belief’. Isolation will indeed prevent people contracting viruses that are spread by exposure to other people, which also reduces the total number of vectors for infection in a given community, but aside from that, it is not the case that people are otherwise ‘prevented’ from getting the flu, though vaccination for the flu would go a long way to preventing flu symptoms, particularly if they’re unavoidably exposed to stupid people who flout regulations because they don’t understand how viruses or vaccines work.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

minimus:

So if you take the jab and you socially distance, you really shouldn’t get the flu or possibly a cold.

A COVID vaccination won’t stop you getting the flu, which is why there is a separate flu vaccine, and neither would prevent you getting a cold. A person who is vaccinated for either condition may still be infected with the corresponding virus but would generally experience only very mild symptoms, if any. Vaccines don’t prevent a person being exposed to a virus, so it is asinine to expect that a vaccinated person can’t be infected at all.

But obviously if someone is isolated from other people, they won’t get any virus that is contracted by exposure to other people.

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

A virus that is more infectious than the regular flu is transmitted more than the regular flu, and measures intended to reduce spread of the more infectious virus also help reduce infection of the other virus. Yeah… amazing. 🙄

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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.

because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.

now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.

Jeffro

Flu vaccines have been available in Australia this year (and last year) independently of the COVID vaccines and messaging about recommending those vaccines has been the same as in other years, though probably overshadowed by increased focus on COVID.

The claim that ‘flu would be identified as COVID’ is a lie, and health departments provide specific differences in the type, onset and intensity of symptoms for either COVID or Influenza.

There has been a reduction in flu cases as a result of ‘social distancing’ due to COVID measures.

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Major ABC news article JW'S in Russia

by Bill Covert in

jw
friends

if someone can post an abc news article on forum, i lack the computer skills.

please read.

the main point was nobody is able to figure out motive for persecution.

Jeffro

Russia's crackdown on Jehovah's Witnesses is intended as a message that small ostensibly American religious sects that try to recruit others will not be tolerated in their country. So while it's heavy-handed and counterproductive, it is hardly the case that 'no one knows why'.

In addition to Russia's dislike of American sects, and the fact that JWs inherently will not endorse Russia's government, it is not entirely surprising that any government might perceive some JW views as 'extremist':

'Russia' is a 'beast' from Ezekiel and Revelation.
All governments, including Russia's, will soon be destroyed
Billions of people who refuse to accept their beliefs will soon be annihilated

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Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck,,,,do you care about them?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i’m sick and tired of seeing pictures and articles about their rekindled romance.

who cares???

do you enjoy seeing news articles about celebrity daters?.

Jeffro

Not remotely aware or concerned about what these particular celebrities are getting up to. But what is more concerning is that these kind of tabloid nonsense sources that spout this drivel, much of which is fabricated and replete with doctored images, are frequently the same outlets that many people turn to for actual 'news', the presentation of which is usually of equal 'quality'.

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The right to not be exposed to ideas I don’t like or agree with?

by EdenOne in

ok, i would like to submit to the forum the following question: in abstract, do you think that there is a right to not being exposed to ideas that you don’t like or disagree with?

please think it through and its implications on both ends of the spectrum.. it’s not the right to conscientious objection to do something you vehemently disagree with; it’s not about the liberty to chose which ideas you want to embrace or advocate.

it’s something different.. given that, as exjws, we understand the importance of being exposed to different opinions in order to form our own opinion, should someone claim the right not to be exposed to opinions or ideas that they don’t like?

Jeffro

No, to ‘not be exposed to ideas’ isn’t a ‘right’, certainly not in the way the term is normally used. It’s basically repackaging the idea of ‘the right to not be offended’.