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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  Listener:

  Is a drunk person putting others at risk if they are not at home and not driving?

  What about a mentally challenged person, or a drug taker, whether prescribed or not. When they pose a serious risk because of their proven social misbehaviour something can be done about it but usually not until they've already caused damage.
  
  What if the unvaccinated person is prepared to take extra precautions so as not to be any more of a risk than a vaccinated person and what exactly would be required? Who are they a risk to, another unvaccinated person or a vaccinated person?

  It isn't really the purpose of analogies to cover every possible scenario. Nor does something being analogous automatically mean that both things are equally valid. It's just a metaphor for quickly comparing ideas. Most readers with a fairly basic education would understand the intent of the comparison the doctor was making.
  
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  Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

  i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

  how many jabs have you had?.

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  Jeffro

  But Bill Gates knows exactly where you are now, and is personally tracking your every move!

  Yeah. It's called a mobile (or 'cell') phone.

  
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  Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

  i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

  how many jabs have you had?.

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  Jeffro

  I have heard from quite a few people that it is common to have some mild symptoms only after the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine, but only after the second dose of the Pfizer.

  I've had Pfizer, both doses, very mild symptoms after second dose, no side effects beyond the day after.

  Still no autism and can't receive or transmit 5G.
  
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  As soon as you present some. Pretty much everything in your previous post is false or misleading.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  Why is it that the sites you people link to as ‘evidence’ are already recognised as pseudoscience nutter sites? This time, ZeroHedge, operated out of Bulgaria.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Jeffro

  DATA-DOG:

  Dr. Leanna Wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… They have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk. Besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had SARS cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the MRNA shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry Big Pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  The doctor’s analogy is logically sound, though that doesn’t automatically mean the conclusion applies to the different situation, so it could be considered a hasty generalisation.

  Comparing an analogy involving unvaccinated people with people who have previously been infected is ‘shifting the goalposts’.

  Comparison with the unrelated JW analogy that happens to mention drivers’ licences is an equivocation fallacy.
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  Really Proud to be a Jehovahs-Witness, I am a student these days and Saving ALOT thanks to Student Wow Deals

  by Studentwowdeals in

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  hey guys, i just wanted to let any felow students know there there is a website just for us to save money :) since the covid i have been buying everything online through them it i have saved alot of money thanks student wow deals.

  basically you sign up for free thats it.

  hope this helps some people while they are studying!

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  Jeffro

  It’s nothing to do with JWs, they’re just quoting the forum’s domain name in their tacky spiel to try to sound relevant.
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  Really Proud to be a Jehovahs-Witness, I am a student these days and Saving ALOT thanks to Student Wow Deals

  by Studentwowdeals in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hey guys, i just wanted to let any felow students know there there is a website just for us to save money :) since the covid i have been buying everything online through them it i have saved alot of money thanks student wow deals.

  basically you sign up for free thats it.

  hope this helps some people while they are studying!

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  Jeffro

  I’m sure lots of JWs refer to themselves as a “Jehovahs-Witness”. 😏 Does anyone under 70 say “the Covid”? 🤔 Totally not a scam. 🤦‍♂️
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  The Last Day

  by johnamos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  [7-1-98 wt – martha said of her dead brother, lazarus: “i know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” (john 11:24) how did she know that?

  …she might even have learned this from jesus himself.

  (john 6:39 - this is the will of him who sent me, that i should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that i should resurrect them on the last day.

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  Jeffro

  The ‘last day’ in the story of Lazarus’ resurrection, found only in John (the latest of the four ‘gospels’), cannot be attributed to any specific time period as there is no frame of reference. Even if it is assumed that the story refers to real events, it is supposed to indicate a period of time of ‘1,000 years plus some undefined period’ to occur after a supernatural appearance of Jesus that early Christians expected to occur not long after the ‘great tribulation’. (The ‘appointed times of the nations’ to ‘trample the holy city’ refers to the Roman military occupation of Jerusalem for 3.5 years - 42 months, 1260 days - that is, Rome’s response to the Jewish revolt in 66CE until the city’s destruction. The ‘great tribulation’ was the consequential destruction of Jerusalem in 70CE.) No supernatural manifestation of Jesus occurred after that event, and various reinterpretations and apologetics have been attempted ever since, many of which attempt to place some kind of fulfilment in a near future.
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  The Last Day

  by johnamos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  [7-1-98 wt – martha said of her dead brother, lazarus: “i know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” (john 11:24) how did she know that?

  …she might even have learned this from jesus himself.

  (john 6:39 - this is the will of him who sent me, that i should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that i should resurrect them on the last day.

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  Jeffro

  Aside from there being no good reason to believe in any literal fulfilment of the claims in Revelation or the gospels about resurrection, the JW interpretation is especially flawed. The Bible doesn’t say that anyone is resurrected during the thousand years. It says the first resurrection before the thousand years is that of the great crowd - the people from all nations who serve as kings and priests for 1,000 years. The Bible also suggests the 144,000 are only resurrected after the 1,000 years, and it says they serve as kings without any mention of them being priests, and they rule with Jesus forever.

  See also https://jeffro77.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/what-does-the-bible-really-teach-about-the-144000.pdf