do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Kosenen:
How else would the scripture speak about captains and sailors looking at its destruction from a distance?
đ Compare Matthew 4:8.
Descriptions in Revelation are explicitly metaphorical but you insist a literal interpretation. But when a story in Matthew is presented as literal, it is freely accepted as metaphor (or a âvisionâ). đ¤Śââď¸ Unless youâre a flat earther as well. đ
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Kosenen:
why don't you just look at the arguments I present on my website.
Because youâre making up nonsense that you imagine makes Revelation relevant to the present era.
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Fisherman:
It is not Rome because the great tribulation and Armageddon did not happen and neither did Rome suffer the same fate as BTG.
This kind of irrational thinking is why religions survive. âBelieversâ arenât really interested in the actual intent of the Bible authors. They are interested in what keeps the myth ârelevantâ. The obvious intended meaning failed (e.g. Rome wasnât destroyed as expected)? Fine, just replace it with an unverifiable assertion. A Bible âprophecyâ explicitly failed (e. g. Tyre will never be rebuilt or found)? Fine, just ignore the inconvenient verses altogether. Itâs really very tedious.
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
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If that is the case, end of discussion.
It would be if the participants were rational.
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
No, thatâs called begging the question. The subject of this thread is the meaning of âBabylon the Greatâ in Revelation. Itâs Rome, irrespective of whether you think the Bible is magical.
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Fisherman:
Rome did not suffer the fate of BTH therefore not Rome.
The fact that a superstitious belief did not eventuate is not evidence that it 'really' means 'something that will still happen in the future'. They were just wrong, and that's all.
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Fisherman:
There are only 2 candidates described in the Bible fitting the bill: secular and religious.
Entirely wrong. There is actually exactly one meaning for the âcity that has a kingdom over other kingsâ that was relevant to first century Christians. Rome. Their superstitions were wrong, and people like you, Kosenen and Watch Tower have been making up excuses ever since.
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Kosenen:
Hi Fisherman, nice that you are at least interested in the Bible and the Revelation book and try to understand this and thanks Godlyman for bringing up this subject.
It seems that your basis for determining that someone is âinterestedâ in the subject is actually that they insist it has some supernatural meaning.
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Good grief đ¤Śââď¸
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Is it possible that Covid, which affected the entire world economy, is punishment from God against the Harlot? I have been pondering over this for quite some time.
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